Solving Systems of Linear Equations in Two Variables- Graphs

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The discussion revolves around a system of linear equations in two variables, specifically examining the nature of the solutions and their graphical representation. Participants explore whether the two equations represent distinct lines or the same line in different forms.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the identity of the solution and the implications of having infinite solutions. Questions arise regarding the graphical representation of the equations and whether they are distinct lines or the same line expressed differently.

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There is a productive exploration of the concepts involved, with some participants suggesting that the equations are equivalent and represent one line, while others question the terminology used to describe their relationship. Clarifications have been provided regarding the nature of the solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the equations are not linearly independent and discuss the implications of this in terms of their graphical representation. The conversation reflects a lack of explicit consensus on terminology but indicates a shared understanding of the underlying concepts.

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Homework Statement


Solve the system of equations: { (1/2)x-y=3 and x=6+2y

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The Attempt at a Solution


The solution is 3=3, which is an identity, which means that there is an infinite amount of solutions to the system. Here's where my question lies (asked my teacher but she didn't know):
This system of equations results in two graphs, or lines. Their graphs are identical, so on a graph it would look like a single line. But are they two different lines occupying the same space on the plane, or are they the same line? I hope this makes sense. I've attached a screenshot of the problem out of the book for reference.
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DS2C said:

Homework Statement


Solve the system of equations: { (1/2)x-y=3 and x=6+2y

Homework Equations


NA

The Attempt at a Solution


The solution is 3=3, which is an identity, which means that there is an infinite amount of solutions to the system. Here's where my question lies (asked my teacher but she didn't know):
This system of equations results in two graphs, or lines. Their graphs are identical, so on a graph it would look like a single line. But are they two different lines occupying the same space on the plane, or are they the same line? I hope this makes sense. I've attached a screenshot of the problem out of the book for reference.View attachment 216102

There is only one line. Any point (x,y) that satisfies one of the equations automatically also satisfies the other.
 
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The two equations are not linearly independent which is another way of saying that one can be obtained from the other and there is only one straight line. Just multiply the bottom equation by 1/2 and move y to the left and you will see what I mean.
 
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So theyre not two lines occupying the same space. They are one line that resulted from two different equations. Or are they the same equation just in different forms since multiplying by 1/2 turns it into the top one?
 
DS2C said:
So theyre not two lines occupying the same space. They are one line that resulted from two different equations. Or are they the same equation just in different forms since multiplying by 1/2 turns it into the top one?
It's really only one line. The two equations are equivalent, meaning that any solutions (ordered pairs (x, y)) of one equation are also solutions of the other equation.
 
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Ok thank you guys. Cleared that up.
 
You are correct, there are an infinite number of solutions. I would say that the two equations are not linearly independent, rather than saying they are the same equation.
 
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