Finding Velocity Components given Speed and Heading

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the velocity components (Vx and Vy) of a vehicle given its speed and heading. The context involves understanding the conventions of heading relative to true north and the corresponding coordinate system used for the vehicle's motion.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use trigonometric functions to derive Vx and Vy based on the speed and heading, suggesting two potential solutions involving sine and cosine. Some participants question the definitions of vertical and horizontal in relation to the vehicle's coordinate system and the global coordinate system.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the implications of the defined coordinate system and the relationship between heading and velocity components. There is an ongoing clarification regarding the correct interpretation of the components based on the defined axes, with some guidance provided on the relationships between the sine and cosine functions and the directional components.

Contextual Notes

There is some confusion regarding the definitions of the axes in relation to the vehicle's heading and the global coordinate system. The original poster's use of terms like "vertical" and "horizontal" is being scrutinized, and the need for clarity on the definitions of Vx and Vy is evident.

Ash_Sdr

Homework Statement


Given the Speed of vehicle at any instant (say 30 meters/s) and Heading of a vehicle (say 270 degrees ) , how can i find the velocity components which is Vx and Vy .

Lemme tell you about the Heading ...This is the convention..

I don;t know if this pic is viewable or not... So Heading is with true north... which means that , if vehicle is facing NORTH --- heading is 0 degrees (or) 360 ... if its facing East , its 90 degrees , if its facing South , its 180 and If its facing West , its 270...

The X,Y convention is ... X is Vertical Axis and Y is Horizontal...
bAKHza


Homework Equations


Speed = sqrt(Vx^2 + Vy^2)

The Attempt at a Solution


Two possible Solutions which i can think of...

Since X is longitudinal and Y is Lateral ... Vx = Speed * sin(Heading)
Vy = Speed *cos(Heading)

and Second solution is to use delta heading
Vx = Speed * sin(Heading2 - Heading1)
Vy = Speed *cos(Heading2 - Heading1)

but I am not getting good results with these... can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong
 
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Ash_Sdr said:

Homework Statement


Given the Speed of vehicle at any instant (say 30 meters/s) and Heading of a vehicle (say 270 degrees ) , how can i find the velocity components which is Vx and Vy .

Lemme tell you about the Heading ...This is the convention..

I don;t know if this pic is viewable or not... So Heading is with true north... which means that , if vehicle is facing NORTH --- heading is 0 degrees (or) 360 ... if its facing East , its 90 degrees , if its facing South , its 180 and If its facing West , its 270...

The X,Y convention is ... X is Vertical Axis and Y is Horizontal...
bAKHza


Homework Equations


Speed = sqrt(Vx^2 + Vy^2)

The Attempt at a Solution


Two possible Solutions which i can think of...

Since X is longitudinal and Y is Lateral ... Vx = Speed * sin(Heading)
Vy = Speed *cos(Heading)

and Second solution is to use delta heading
Vx = Speed * sin(Heading2 - Heading1)
Vy = Speed *cos(Heading2 - Heading1)

but I am not getting good results with these... can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong

By vertical, do you mean "pointing north"? By horizontal, do you mean "pointing east"? I ask, because your North-East-South-West directions seem to be at odds with your vertical/horizontal.
 
No, By vertical , its not pointing North ... nor Horizontal is pointing east... Thats the vehicle coordinate system and the heading angle is w.r.t global coordinates..
 
Ash_Sdr said:
No, By vertical , its not pointing North ... nor Horizontal is pointing east... Thats the vehicle coordinate system and the heading angle is w.r.t global coordinates..

Well, your first solution gave ##v_x = s \sin(\theta), v_y = s \cos(\theta)##, where ##s## is the speed and ##\theta## is the heading (measured clockwise from north). That means that ##v_x## is the velocity component in the easterly direction (actually, pointing west if ##v_x < 0##) and ##v_y## is the northerly component. That is what you get if you use sines and cosines the way you did!

Your second "solution" makes no sense at all unless you specify two headings, which you have not done.
 
Ray Vickson said:
Well, your first solution gave ##v_x = s \sin(\theta), v_y = s \cos(\theta)##, where ##s## is the speed and ##\theta## is the heading (measured clockwise from north). That means that ##v_x## is the velocity component in the easterly direction (actually, pointing west if ##v_x < 0##) and ##v_y## is the northerly component. That is what you get if you use sines and cosines the way you did!

Your second "solution" makes no sense at all unless you specify two headings, which you have not done.
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vx should be northerly component right ? and vy should be Easterly ?
 
Ray Vickson said:
Well, your first solution gave ##v_x = s \sin(\theta), v_y = s \cos(\theta)##, where ##s## is the speed and ##\theta## is the heading (measured clockwise from north). That means that ##v_x## is the velocity component in the easterly direction (actually, pointing west if ##v_x < 0##) and ##v_y## is the northerly component. That is what you get if you use sines and cosines the way you did!

Your second "solution" makes no sense at all unless you specify two headings, which you have not done.
The second solution " heading 2 is current heading and heading 1 is previous heading
 
Ash_Sdr said:
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vx should be northerly component right ? and vy should be Easterly ?

No, not the way you defined things. For speed ##s## and heading ##\theta## (measured clockwise from north) the quantity ##s \sin(\theta)## is the EASTward component of the vector; draw a picture and check this for yourself! So, when you write ##v_x = s \sin(\theta)## you are giving the eastward component, NOT the northward one. The quantity ##s \cos(\theta)## is the northward component, which you called ##v_y##. So,if I look at a map with north up and east to the right, your x-axis runs from west to east and your y-axis runs from south to north. That is exactly what a standard cartesian coordinate system looks like.

Again: draw a picture; don't take my word for it.
 

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