Finding velocity (having trouble interpreting the question

  • Thread starter Thread starter zx636r
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Velocity
Click For Summary
The discussion revolves around calculating the velocity of a ball as it passes a specific height (point A), which is 1/3 of its maximum height. The initial velocity is given as 10 m/s, with the maximum height being 5 m, making point A at 5/3 m. Participants clarify that point O represents the ground level, and point A is not arbitrary but a defined height in the context of the problem. The equation Vf^2 = V0^2 + 2a(x - x0) is suggested for solving the problem, emphasizing the need to consider gravitational acceleration. Understanding the relationship between the initial velocity and the height is crucial for determining the velocity at point A.
zx636r
Messages
1
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


For an initial velocity of V0, what is the velocity of the ball as it passes the point A on its way up, where OA is 1/3 the maximum height.

V0 = 10m/s
t = 1s (2s total for the ball to come back down)
maximum height = 5m
initial displacement x0 = 0m

Homework Equations


Vf^2 = V0^2 + 2a(x - x0)

The Attempt at a Solution


6jO1eUG.png


I'm assuming point O is the ground. If point OA is 1/3 of the maximum height then, it is 5/3m. My confusion is what point A should be. Is it some arbitrary point that is just deemed "A"? The answers are in terms of vA (velocity as the ball passes through point A) = initial velocity times a constant. The other thing I can think of is that I am wrong for setting point O at 0. Am I supposed to go another "O" distance from OA to get to point A?

I know this answer is yahoo answers or something, but I refrained from just looking at the answer because I really want to understand what is going on.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
zx636r said:
point O is the ground
You're shown a parabolic path/trajectory. "O" is at ground level, or y = 0 describes a line "O" which you could regard as the "x-axis."
zx636r said:
A on its way up, where OA is 1/3
Think "y = A."
zx636r said:
arbitrary point that is just deemed "A"?
Call it an "arbitrary" altitude --- "A" for "arbitrary" or for "altitude" or for "ambiguous" statement.
 
zx636r said:

Homework Statement


For an initial velocity of V0, what is the velocity of the ball as it passes the point A on its way up, where OA is 1/3 the maximum height.

V0 = 10m/s
t = 1s (2s total for the ball to come back down)
maximum height = 5m
initial displacement x0 = 0m

Homework Equations


Vf^2 = V0^2 + 2a(x - x0)

The Attempt at a Solution


6jO1eUG.png


I'm assuming point O is the ground.
Correct.
If point OA is 1/3 of the maximum height then, it is 5/3m. My confusion is what point A should be. Is it some arbitrary point that is just deemed "A"?
No. According to the information you gave it is at x = 5/3 m.

Is this supposed to be solved algebraically, or is the answer supposed to be for the specific problem of v0 = 10m/s, max ht = 5 m?

The answers are in terms of vA (velocity as the ball passes through point A) = initial velocity times a constant. The other thing I can think of is that I am wrong for setting point O at 0. Am I supposed to go another "O" distance from OA to get to point A?
No. These are both correct interpretations.

If you are trying to do this algebraically, then you use your equation to determine the maximum height x in terms of v0. To do that, you need to select the gravitational value of the acceleration a.

Chet
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

Similar threads

  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
1K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
2K
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
52
Views
5K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
5K
  • · Replies 23 ·
Replies
23
Views
3K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
4K
  • · Replies 22 ·
Replies
22
Views
5K