Calculating the velocity and acceleration given vector velocity at 1 second

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The discussion focuses on calculating the velocity and acceleration of a ball thrown on Mars, with specific attention to its parabolic trajectory. The velocity at t=1s is given, and participants clarify that at maximum height (t=2s), the vertical component of velocity is zero while the horizontal component remains constant. The acceleration due to gravity on Mars is deduced to be approximately 3.72 m/s², based on the change in vertical velocity over time. Additionally, the initial speed and launch angle are determined to be around 7.70 m/s and 75 degrees, respectively. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the relationship between velocity and acceleration in projectile motion.
  • #31
kuruman said:
Actually, this is a 2d situation, so what are dvx /dt and dvy /dt in this case? Can you figure out the numbers from what is given?
dvx/dt would be 0
 
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  • #32
mdavies23 said:
dvx/dt would be 0
Yes, it would be. What about dvy /dt? You know it's constant and equal to gMars. How can you find a value for it? What do you need to know?
 
  • #33
kuruman said:
Yes, it would be. What about dvy /dt? You know it's constant and equal to gMars. How can you find a value for it? What do you need to know?
The velocity at time t=2
 
  • #34
mdavies23 said:
The velocity at time t=2
You need to know more than that. Remember what we said, "For every second that goes by, you add gMars m/s in the downward direction to whatever velocity is already there." Acceleration has to do with change in velocity. You cannot determine a change from just one number. Change is what you end up with minus what you start with. You need two numbers to find the change in vy. One number is vy at t = 2s. What could the other number be?
 
  • #35
kuruman said:
You need to know more than that. Remember what we said, "For every second that goes by, you add gMars m/s in the downward direction to whatever velocity is already there." Acceleration has to do with change in velocity. You cannot determine a change from just one number. Change is what you end up with minus what you start with. You need two numbers to find the change in vy. One number is vy at t = 2s. What could the other number be?
Vy at time t=1
 
  • #36
Yes. So what is the acceleration on Mars?
 
  • #37
kuruman said:
Yes. So what is the acceleration on Mars?
So would it just be 3.72 m/s^2?
 
  • #38
That would be the magnitude. Congratulations! You have answered part (b). Now onto part (a). Can you write the velocity in vector form at t = 2 s and t = 3 s?
 
  • #39
kuruman said:
That would be the magnitude. Congratulations! You have answered part (b). Now onto part (a). Can you write the velocity in vector form at t = 2 s and t = 3 s?
Vx would stay the same and then I would add 3.72m/s to Vy. so 2.00m/s i + 7.44 m/s j
 
  • #40
At what time is this velocity? Remember that at t = 2 s the ball is at maximum height traveling horizontally.
 
  • #41
kuruman said:
At what time is this velocity? Remember that at t = 2 s the ball is at maximum height traveling horizontally.
I thought it would be a time t=2s
 
  • #42
mdavies23 said:
I thought it would be a time t=2s
It can't be at time t = 2s. Please read your post #12 and reconsider.
 
  • #43
kuruman said:
It can't be at time t = 2s. Please read your post #12 and reconsider.
Oh so Vy would be zero so the vector would look like 2.00 m/s i + 0 m/s j
 
  • #44
Right. That's at t = 2 s. What is the velocity at t = 3 s?
 
  • #45
kuruman said:
Right. That's at t = 2 s. What is the velocity at t = 3 s?
2.00 m/s i - 3.72 m/s j
 
  • #46
Very good! You are done with part (a). Time to move on to part (c). What do you need to know to find the initial speed and launch angle?
 
  • #47
kuruman said:
Very good! You are done with part (a). Time to move on to part (c). What do you need to know to find the initial speed and launch angle?
I need to know the velocity vector at t=0 then i could find the magnitude and direction o f it
 
  • #48
Right. Go for it. Remember that in 2 s vy drops from its initial value to zero.
 
  • #49
kuruman said:
Right. Go for it. Remember that in 2 s vy drops from its initial value to zero.
7.70 m/s at an angle of 75 degrees
 
  • #50
That looks right. What about part (d)?
 
  • #51
kuruman said:
That looks right. What about part (d)?
2*4 = 8m
 
  • #52
That's it. You're done with this one.
 
  • #53
kuruman said:
That's it. You're done with this one.
Thanks for everything
 

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