Finding volumes by rotating around an axis of revolution

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of a sphere through integration, specifically by rotating a circle defined by the equation x² + (y - 1)² = 25 around the x-axis. The original poster presents an integral that includes a subtraction of the volume of a cylinder.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem, including the choice of using cylinders versus disks for volume calculation. There are questions about the original poster's use of variables and the reasoning behind subtracting the volume of a cylinder.

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Some participants have provided alternative interpretations of the problem setup and suggested different approaches to the integral. The discussion is ongoing, with various lines of reasoning being explored without a clear consensus on the correct method or final answer.

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There is some confusion regarding the rotation axis and the definition of the sphere's dimensions. The original poster's integral includes a term that is not fully explained, leading to questions about its relevance and correctness.

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1. Homework Statement

k so here is the equation i need help with that will find me the volume of a sphere
2*pi*y*sqrt(25-(y-1)^2) dy - 5*pi from 0 to 6

the 5 pi is the volume of a cylinder


2. Steps
so first i subbed u=y-1
took the 2 pi out of the integral
that got me 2 integrals u*sqrt(25-(u)^2) du + sqrt(25-(u)^2) du
the first integral = (2*pi*24^(3/2))/3

the second i used a trig sub and my final answer is
(25pi^2)/2 +
-25*asin(-.2)+sqrt(24)



3. Answer

the answer is suppose to be 25pi^2 + 500pi/3

i got 25pi^2 + (-75*asin(-.2)+3*sqrt(24)+2*(24)^(3/2) -15)/3
which is approx
25pi^2 + 499.89pi/3

how do i get the exact answer
 
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You are trying to find the volume of a sphere of radius 5 with center at (0, 1, 0)? Projected onto a x, y plane, gives the circle x^2+ (y- 1)^2= 25 and taking only the right half-plane, x= \sqrt{25- (y-1)^2}. That is the figure being rotated around the line y= 1.

And, from the way you are doing this, I take it you are using "cylinders" (I would have been inclined to use disks). Each "cylinder" of radius y has length
\sqrt{25- (y- 1)^2}- (-\sqrt{25- (y-1)^2})= 2\sqrt{25- (y- 1)^2}

and so surface area \pi r^2h= \pi (y- 1)^2(2\sqrt{25- (y-1)^2}). With "thickness" dy, each cylinder will have volume 2\pi (y- 1)^2\sqrt{25- (y-1)^2} dy so the volume of the entire sphere will be the integral, as y goes from 1 to 1+ 5= 6,
2\pi \int_1^6 (y- 1)^2\sqrt{25- (y- 1)^2}dy

A good first step, just as you say, would to be let u= y- 1 so that du= dy, when y= 1, u= 0, when y= 6, u= 5 and the integral becomes
2\pi\int_0^5 u^2\sqrt{25- u^2}du

Yes, you can let u= 5sin(\theta) so that du= 5 cos(\theta)d\theta and \sqrt{25- u^2}= \sqrt{25- 25sin^2(\theta)}= 5\sqrt{cos^2(\theta)}= 5 cos(\theta). Further, when u= 0, 5sin(\theta)= 0 so \theta= 0 and when u= 5, 5 sin(\theta)= 5 so \theta= \pi/2.

The integral becomes
2\pi\int_0^{\pi/2}(25 sin^2(\theta))(5 cos(\theta))(5 cos(\theta))d\theta[/itex]<br /> <br /> I do not know why you are using &quot;y&quot; outside the square root rather than &quot;y- 1&quot; nor do I see why it is not squared. I had to guess at what you really intended since you did not say what the radius or center of the sphere were. I also do not know why you subtracted 5\pi, the &quot;volume of a cylinder&quot; when you said you were finding the volume of a sphere.
 
no no... sorry the circle is being revolved around the x-axis and y2= 1 which is why so the 5pi exists because i am subtracting the volume from y2
 
oh and yes amd the question asked me to revolve the circle around the x-axis in terms of y, which is longer by the way.
 
<br /> 2\pi \int_0^6 y\sqrt{25- (y- 1)^2}dy + 5\pi<br />

that's the integral I want solved and the answer i got is (25pi^2)/2 + (500*pi)/3 intstead of 25pi^2 + 499.89pi/3
 

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