Finding wavelength and wave speed in a sinusoidal wave.

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The discussion revolves around a sinusoidal wave propagating along a stretched string, with specific focus on determining the wavelength and wave speed based on given displacement data at two points along the string. Participants are examining the implications of the wave's direction on these measurements.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are questioning the interpretation of the relationship between the two points at x=0m and x=0.09m, particularly whether they are one wavelength apart. There is discussion about the timing of peaks at these points and how that relates to calculating wavelength and speed.

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Multiple interpretations of the wave's behavior are being explored, particularly regarding how the direction of wave propagation affects wavelength and speed. Some participants have offered insights into calculating velocity based on time intervals observed in the graph, while others express confusion about the differing wavelengths for different directions of wave travel.

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There is ambiguity in the graph regarding the wave's direction, which affects the interpretation of the data. Participants are also grappling with the implications of the wave moving in different directions and how that influences their calculations.

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Homework Statement


A sinusoidal wave is propagating along a stretched string that lies along the x-axis. The displacement of the string as a function of time is graphed in the figure (attachment) for particles at x=0m and x=0.0900m.
(A) What is the amplitude of the wave?
4mm
(B) What is the period of the wave?
0.04s

I am confused by the following questions:
(C) You are told that the two points x=0 an x=0.09m are within one wavelength of each other. If the wave is moving in the +x-direction, determine the wavelength and wave speed.
ANSWER KEY: 0.14m and 3.5m/s
(D) If the wave is moving in the -x-direction, determine the wavelength and wave speed.
ANSWER KEY: 0.24m and 6.0m/s

Homework Equations


y(x,t)=Acos(kx +/- ωt)
v=λf

The Attempt at a Solution


Initially I thought the wavelength would be 0.09 since it says 0 and 0.09 are one wavelength away from each other... But then I looked at the answer key and it seems my interpretation is wrong. Does anyone know what the question is asking in C?
 

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It doesn't say 0 and .09 are one wavelength apart.
If they were, they would peak simultaneously.
It looks like one peaks about .025 s after the other. That would mean the wave went one wavelength in time .025. Can you get a wavelength or velocity out of that? If you get one, you can find the other with the wave equation.
 
Delphi51 said:
It doesn't say 0 and .09 are one wavelength apart.
If they were, they would peak simultaneously.
It looks like one peaks about .025 s after the other. That would mean the wave went one wavelength in time .025. Can you get a wavelength or velocity out of that? If you get one, you can find the other with the wave equation.

I don't think that is correct. Depending on which way the wave is going the velocity will be about

.09m/.025s or .09m/.015s

?

Confusing graph at first.
 
Spinnor said:
I don't think that is correct. Depending on which way the wave is going the velocity will be about

.09m/.025s or .09m/.015s

?

Confusing graph at first.

Could you please explain to me how you got 0.15s for the -x direction? Isn't the time interval the same?

But yeah I think he is correct, it took 0.025s to travel from 0m to 0.09m, so the velocity is about 3.6m/s and wavelength is 0.144m.
 
Oh I see because we start at x=0.

Thanks for the help!
 
Im a little confused on why the wavelength is different when the wave is moving in the -x direction. Can somebody shed a little light in this for me?
 
cvazzer42 said:
Im a little confused on why the wavelength is different when the wave is moving in the -x direction. Can somebody shed a little light in this for me?

It is a confusing ( to me) graph. You have two separate observation points with the data graphed. There is ambiguity from the graph as to which way the wave is traveling, you can't tell from the graph. But once they tell you which way the wave is going you can determine the wavelength and the velocity. Let x =0 = a and x = .09 = b. If the wave moves to the right the wave peaks at a then latter at b. if the wave moves to the left it peaks at b and then latter at a. From the graph you can then determine the time it takes for the wave to move .09 meters. From the graph you also know the frequency of the wave. You have enough information to figure the wave velocity.

Hope this was helpful. Good luck.
 
cvazzer42 said:
Im a little confused on why the wavelength is different when the wave is moving in the -x direction. Can somebody shed a little light in this for me?

The graphs might be of waves in some moving medium, like waves in a flowing river. Water waves move faster down stream then up-stream when viewed from the river bank.
 

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