Finite Sheets of Charge Compared to Infinite Sheets of Charge

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The problem involves two thin disks of charge with specified charge densities and positions, and it asks for the ratio of the radius of the disks to the separation distance between them, such that the electric field at a specific point deviates from the infinite sheet approximation by a certain percentage.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the expression for the electric field generated by the disks and how to manipulate it to find the desired ratio of R/a. There is uncertainty about how to isolate R/a and how the electric field E relates to the infinite sheet approximation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints on how to set up the equations and manipulate them to find the ratio. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem, and one participant indicates they have reached a conclusion independently.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need to express the electric field in terms of R/a and the requirement to provide the answer to two significant digits. There is also a reference to the percentage difference in electric field values as a key aspect of the problem.

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Homework Statement



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Consider two thin disks, of negligible thickness, of radius R oriented perpendicular to the x-axis such that the x-axis runs through the center of each disk. The disk centered at x=0 has positive charge density n, and the disk centered at x=a has negative charge density -n, where the charge density is charge per unit area.

For what value of the ratio R/a of plate radius to separation between the plates does the electric field at the point x=a/2 on the x-axis differ by 1 percent from the result n/epsilon_0 for infinite sheets?


Homework Equations



E(disk_x) = n/(2epsilon_0) * (1-((x)/(sqrt(x^2 + R^2))))

The Attempt at a Solution



I have found the electric field at x=a/2 to be:

E(disk_x) = 2*(n/(2*epsilon_0) * (1-((.5a)/(sqrt((.5a)^2 + R^2))))

However, I'm not sure where to go from here. Should I work the above equation to get what R/a is equal to and then set it equal to .99*(n/epsilon_0)?
 
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Gaupp said:
I have found the electric field at x=a/2 to be:

E(disk_x) = 2*(n/(2*epsilon_0) * (1-((.5a)/(sqrt((.5a)^2 + R^2))))
Set that expression equal to .99*(n/epsilon_0) and solve for R/a. (Hint: First rewrite that expression in terms of R/a.)
 
So now I have:

Sorry this is going to be messy...

R/a = sqrt(.25*((1-((epsilon_0*E)/n))^-2)-.25) = .99(n/(epsilon_0))

How do I deal with the E? If I sub in the other equation won't that just negate everything? I'm also asked to give the answer to two significant digits, but I don't see how the R/a ratio is going to give me numbers without that E still in it.

Help me out Doc please :)
 
Okay I got it on my own.

Using the %difference = (E_infinite - E)/(E_infinite)

Since E = n/epsilon_0 * (1-((.5a)/(sqrt((.5a)^2 + R^2)))) approaces n/epsilon_0 as R/a approaches infinity you can plug in n/epsilon_0 for E_infinite and the original equation for E. Solving this for %difference = .01 you arrive at R/a = 50.

Nasty little problem...
 

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