First Law of Thermodynamics (Eint = Q-W) question. I am only stuck on part (d)

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The discussion focuses on applying the First Law of Thermodynamics, specifically the equation Eint = Q - W, to solve a series of problems involving internal energy, heat, and work. The user successfully calculated values for paths iaf and ibf but struggled with part (d), which requires determining the heat (Q) for path ib given Eint,b = 27 cal. The correct approach involves recognizing that the work done along path ib is equivalent to the work done along path ibf, leading to the conclusion that Q for path ib can be derived from the established relationships of internal energy and work.

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When a system is taken from state i to state f along path iaf in the figure, Q = 60 cal and W = 10 cal. Along path ibf, Q = 65 cal.
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(a) What is W along path ibf? (b) If W = -19 cal for the return path fi, what is Q for this path? (c) If Eint,i = 11 cal, what is Eint,f?(d) If Eint,b = 27 cal what is Q for path ib?(e) For the same value of Eint,b, what is Q for path bf?

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Eint= internal energy of the system; Q= heat; W= work
I have used Eint= Q - W to solve most of the problem.

The Attempt at a Solution


I only am marked wrong on part d which is very frustrating. So far I have:
(a)Wibf = 15 cal because W= Q-E (b) Qfi= -69 cal because Q= -(E)+W (c) Eint,f= 61 cal because Eint,f= Eint+Ei (d) Qib= ? (e) Qbf= 34 because Eint,f =E-Eint,b
Any thoughts?
 
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Hi, zag4life. Welcome to PF.

How does the work for i \rightarrowb compare to the work for i\rightarrowb\rightarrowf?
 
Well, from b to f, because the volume does not change, work is equal to zero. The work for i,b,f would be the same as the work for i,b I think.
 
Good. So, use that to get Q for ib.
 

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