First Law of Thermodynamics issue

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The discussion revolves around the application of the First Law of Thermodynamics in a scenario involving an experiment simulating conditions within an automobile engine. The problem involves calculating the final temperature of air under two different conditions: constant volume and constant pressure.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of thermodynamic equations, particularly focusing on internal energy changes and the relationships between heat, work, and temperature. There is an attempt to apply the equations for constant volume and constant pressure scenarios, with some questioning the correct values for specific heat capacities.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of specific heat capacities for diatomic gases and the ideal gas law. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct path forward for part B, as participants express confusion about the multiple unknowns involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the problem due to the presence of multiple variables and the need to clarify assumptions about the gas properties. There is also mention of imposed homework rules that may limit the sharing of complete solutions.

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Homework Statement


In an experiment to simulate conditions within an automobile engine, 0.155 mol of air at a temperature of 780K and a pressure of 3.20x106 Pa is contained in a cylinder of volume 310 cm3. Then 670 J of heat is transferred to the cylinder.

A) If the volume of the cylinder is constant while the heat is added, what is the final temperature of the air? Assume that the air is essentially nitrogen gas.

B) If instead the volume of the cylinder is allowed to increase while the pressure remains constant, find the final temperature of the air.

Homework Equations


Const P W= pdV Q=nCpdT
Const V W = 0 Q = nCvdT
dU = nCdT
Cp = 5/2R
Cv = 3/2R

The Attempt at a Solution


For part A where Volume is constant, it told me that 670 J of heat is added which would be the Q value for dU. so the overall internal energy is 670 J from that I used the equation dU= nCv(Tf-Ti) which with values came out too 670 = (.155)(3/2*8.314)(Tf-780) which equaled 1126 K. which ended up not being the right answer. I do not know what else to try.

For Part B, I know I need to figure out dU which is Q-W so for this equation it would come out to dU = 670 - pdV or dU = 670 - 3.20E6(Vf-3.1E-4m3). but don't really know where to go from here
 
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  • Nitrogen is a diatomic gas therefore Cv=2.5

    For part B, find Vf as you have been finding and then use the ideal gas relation:

    PV=nRT

 
the Diatomic gas worked, forgot about that tidbit.

but for the Part B I don't fully understand what you mean because I have 2 unknown variables V_f and T_f which is why I am a little lost.
 
Figured it out thanks!, took a good minute though
 
Can you please share the workings of the solution
 
For part b, you use the same equation and everything except that Cv is now Cp, which is just Cv + R.
 

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