Fissionable Elements: Breeding, Unstable Isotopes, Critical Mass

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The discussion revolves around the processes of breeding heavier elements from lighter ones, the energy output of unstable isotopes when bombarded with neutrons, and the factors determining an isotope's critical mass. It includes theoretical considerations and practical implications related to nuclear reactions and isotopes.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether heavier elements can be made from lighter ones through breeding, noting that neutron capture can lead to the formation of new elements, but practical limitations exist for elements lighter than uranium.
  • One participant asserts that unstable isotopes of light elements do not produce a considerable amount of energy when bombarded with neutrons.
  • Participants discuss what determines an isotope's critical mass, mentioning factors like atomic density and the microscopic fission cross-section, which depends on neutron energy.
  • There is a clarification regarding the potential of thorium as a breeding material, with some participants noting its abundance and the possibility of transmuting thorium-232 into uranium-233 through neutron capture and beta decay.
  • Concerns are raised about the practicality of using neutron capture for elements lighter than thorium, with references to the rarity and cost of target elements, as well as the challenges associated with radiological issues.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the practicality of breeding heavier elements from lighter ones and the energy output of unstable isotopes. There is no consensus on the effectiveness of neutron capture for elements lighter than uranium, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall feasibility and efficiency of these processes.

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Limitations include the dependence on specific isotopes and their properties, the unclear efficiency of neutron capture processes, and the varying definitions of practicality in the context of nuclear breeding.

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I have a few questions: can heavier elements be made from lighter ones through breeding? Do unstable isotopes of light elements (lighter than lead) give off enough enough energy , when bombarded with nuetrons, to pruduce a coniderable amount of energy? What determines an isotopes critical mass?
 
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GiTS said:
I have a few questions: can heavier elements be made from lighter ones through breeding?
When an isotope absorbs a neutron, it becomes heavier by 1 amu. The nucleus most often decays by beta emission, so the Z increases by 1, and the nucleus becomes a new element. Successive n-capture results in heavier isotopes and new elements.

It is not practical to use neutron capture to change elements lighter than U into heavier elements.

GiTS said:
Do unstable isotopes of light elements (lighter than lead) give off enough enough energy, when bombarded with nuetrons, to pruduce a coniderable amount of energy?
No.

GiTS said:
What determines an isotopes critical mass?
The atomic density and microscopic fission cross-section, the latter being dependent on the neutron energy.
 
Astronuc said:
It is not practical to use neutron capture to change elements lighter than U into heavier elements.


By not practical, do you mean that only a little amount can be transmuted or that all other elements can be acquired in an easier fashion?
 
It is not practical to use neutron capture to change elements lighter than U into heavier elements.
Actually, I made a somewhat incorrect or misleading statement here. Th-232 may absorb a neutron to become Th-233, which after two successive beta decays becomes U-233. This reaction is the basis of thermal breeder reactor, in contrast to fast breeder reactor (FBR). It would not be practical to try to make Pu-239 or Am-242 from Th however.

Thorium is quite abundant, and in fact, thorium has significant potential as an alternative to U. http://www.nacworldwide.com/Links/Thorium-Fuel.htm
http://www.thoriumpower.com/files/tech publications/Engineering International 1999 article.pdf

Looking at other elements lighter than Th - http://wwwndc.tokai.jaeri.go.jp/CN04/CN024.html and http://wwwndc.tokai.jaeri.go.jp/CN04/CN023.html ,
one has Ac, Ra, Fr, Rn, At, Po, Bi, of which Bi-209 is the only non-radioactive nuclide - all other nuclides are radioactive in varying degrees of specific activity. Rn is a gas, and Fr has relatively low melting point, in common with the other alkali elements.

Nuclides like Th-232, U-235, U-238 have half-lives in excess of 700 million years, and U-233 has a half-life of 159000 years, so it has a little more activity than others, but this is longer than the half-lives of Pu-239 (24100 yrs), Pu-240 (6564 yrs) and Pu-241 (14.35 yrs). In commercial fuel reprocessing, one of the issues is the buildup of Pu-240 and more so Pu-241, because their radioactivity requires remote handling.

By not practical, I mean the target elements are rare or expensive (which is related to being rare), and there are less expensive alternatives, e.g. Th. Also, as theCandyman mentioned so little would be converted or rather the conversion rate would be low (there is the matter of n-capture cross-section). The further one goes down in mass, the less practical n-capture becomes (the number of successive n-captures goes up). Then one has to deal with the difficulty of the radiological issue.
 
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