Flipping H/A Fraction for Canceling Out A's

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The discussion revolves around the equation o/a + h/a = 1, which appears to relate to trigonometric ratios in the context of a right triangle, where "o", "a", and "h" represent opposite side, adjacent side, and hypotenuse, respectively. Participants are exploring how to manipulate this equation, particularly focusing on the concept of "flipping" the h/a fraction.

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  • Participants question the intent behind canceling the "a" values and whether the goal is to simplify or solve for a variable. There is also confusion regarding the manipulation of fractions and the implications of "flipping" them. Some participants suggest alternative interpretations of the equation and its relationship to trigonometric identities.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have offered guidance on manipulating the equation, while others express uncertainty about the original problem's context and the correctness of the assumptions being made. There is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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There is a noted lack of clarity regarding the original problem setup, and some participants mention the need for more information to provide accurate assistance. The potential misapplication of trigonometric identities is also a point of concern.

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o/a + h/a =1

how do i flip the h/a fraction? Do i divide them instead of adding them? (Im trying to cancel out the 2 a values)
 
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I'm not sure what you're asking...why do you want to cancel out the a values? And what are you supposed to do with that equation? Simplify, solve for a variable, etc?
 
mharten1 said:
I'm not sure what you're asking...why do you want to cancel out the a values? And what are you supposed to do with that equation? Simplify, solve for a variable, etc?

Identities for trig ratios
 
supernova1203 said:
Identities for trig ratios

Perhaps I'm just misreading what you initially wrote, but wouldn't o/a + h/a = 1 be the same as tan(θ) + sec(θ) = 1 ? That's not an identity...
 
supernova1203 said:
o/a + h/a =1

how do i flip the h/a fraction? Do i divide them instead of adding them? (Im trying to cancel out the 2 a values)
It's not clear what you're trying to do when you ask how to "flip fractions."

o/a + h/a = 1
<==> (o + h)/a = 1
<==> a/(o + h) = 1/1 = 1 as long as o + h != 0

You can solve for a, if that's what you're trying to do, by multiplying both sides of the equation by o + h.

a = 1* (o + h) = o + h

One thing you CANNOT DO is just "flip" the fractions. For example,
1/2 + 1/2 = 1
but 2/1 + 2/1 is not equal to 1/1.
 
supernova1203 said:
o/a + h/a =1

how do i flip the h/a fraction? Do i divide them instead of adding them? (Im trying to cancel out the 2 a values)

Can you post the original problem using the template?

You cannot flip h/a in this particular equation. Yes, dividing by h/a is the same as multiplying by a/h. However, without seeing your problem, we have no way of knowing whether or not you'd be murdering the equation if you were to change it. :wink:
 
Apparently "o", "a", and "h" are "opposite side", "adjacent side" and "hypotenuse", respectively in a right triangle. It would have been nice to tell us that.

What you can do is first solve for "h/a":
\frac{h}{a}= 1- \frac{o}{a}= \frac{a- o}{a}
and the "flip" both sides:
\frac{a}{h}= \frac{a}{a- o}
but that right side is not any trig function.

As mharten1 said, if these really are trig ratios, then what you have is
cot(\theta)+ csc(\theta)= 1
but that is NOT, in general, true!
 
HallsofIvy said:
As mharten1 said, if these really are trig ratios, then what you have is
cot(\theta)+ csc(\theta)= 1
but that is NOT, in general, true!

And it is true only in the degenerate case where h=a-o, thus where the triangle collapses into a line.
 
supernova1203 said:
o/a + h/a =1

how do i flip the h/a fraction? Do i divide them instead of adding them? (Im trying to cancel out the 2 a values)

If you are trying to cancel out the a's, I would multiply both sides of the equation by a.

o/a + h/a = 1
(o+h)/a = 1
o+h = 1a
o+h = a

And if you are using this for a geometery problem, I think there might be an error somewhere. Opposite + Hypotenuse = Adjacent? shouldn't it be B^2 = C^2 - A^2?? Please forgive if this I'm wrong about what you were intending to apply this to.
 

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