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The problem involves a cylindrical bucket with a hole at the bottom, where water flows in from above. The discussion centers around calculating the height of water in the bucket based on given dimensions, flow rates, and applying Bernoulli's principle.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of Bernoulli's equation and the calculation of velocities at different points in the system. There are questions about unit conversions and the accuracy of the calculated velocities.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided alternative calculations and expressed uncertainty about unit conversions. There is a mix of approaches being explored, including the use of Torricelli's equation. No consensus has been reached on the correct method or result.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential issues with unit conversions, particularly between centimeters and meters, and the significance of the area of the hole compared to the area at the top of the bucket.

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A cylindrical bucket, open at the top has height 27.0 cm and diameter 13.0 cm. A circular hole with a cross-sectional area 1.49 cm^2 is cut in the center of the bottom of the bucket. Water flows into the bucket from a tube above it at the rate of 2.28×10−4 m^3/s

my work
let 1 denote the top and 2 denote the bottom

Q = V1A1
V1 = Q/A = 0.01718 m/s

Q = V2A2
V2 = 0.01530 m/s

using bernoulli's
top bottom
P + pgh + 1/2pv^2 = pgh + 1/2pv^2 + P
P's are equal and cancels out
rho's cancel out
there's no pgh on bottom
we are left with
h = [ 1/2(v2)^2-1/2(v1)^2 ] /g

the answer i get is 0.00179m which is 0.1179 cm but that's not the answer...can anyone see where i went wrong? thank you very much.
 
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neoking77 said:
A cylindrical bucket, open at the top has height 27.0 cm and diameter 13.0 cm. A circular hole with a cross-sectional area 1.49 cm^2 is cut in the center of the bottom of the bucket. Water flows into the bucket from a tube above it at the rate of 2.28×10−4 m^3/s

my work
let 1 denote the top and 2 denote the bottom

Q = V1A1
V1 = Q/A = 0.01718 m/s

Q = V2A2
V2 = 0.01530 m/s

using bernoulli's
top bottom
P + pgh + 1/2pv^2 = pgh + 1/2pv^2 + P
P's are equal and cancels out
rho's cancel out
there's no pgh on bottom
we are left with
h = [ 1/2(v2)^2-1/2(v1)^2 ] /g

the answer i get is 0.00179m which is 0.1179 cm but that's not the answer...can anyone see where i went wrong? thank you very much.

you're probably forgetting to convert something from cm to m or some such thing... I found

h=0.11725 meters

actually, only good to 2 sig fig?

h=0.12 meters
 
really? ? any idea what i converted wrong?
did you get 0.01718m/s and 0.01530m/s for velocities? ... hm
 
neoking77 said:
really? ? any idea what i converted wrong?

no idea. sorry.

did you get 0.01718m/s and 0.01530m/s for velocities? ... hm

I don't remember off hand, if I can find my scratch-paper I'll let you know.

good luck.
 
1cm^2 = .0001m^2 so 2.28x10^-4/1.49x10^-4 gives a velocity of 1.53m/s

I just plugged it into toricelli's equation (v1=sqrt(2g(h2-h1)) and solved for h2 (h1 is 0), which gave the answer .119m = 11.9cm.
 
p0nda said:
1cm^2 = .0001m^2 so 2.28x10^-4/1.49x10^-4 gives a velocity of 1.53m/s

I just plugged it into toricelli's equation (v1=sqrt(2g(h2-h1)) and solved for h2 (h1 is 0), which gave the answer .119m = 11.9cm.

that neglects the velocity of the water at the top of the bucket... valid if A_top >> A_bottom only.
 

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