Fluid dynamics and particulate diffusion question

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The discussion revolves around a fluid dynamics problem involving two cylindrical tubes connected at a 90-degree junction. One tube has a laminar fluid flow saturated with soluble particulates, while the other tube, initially devoid of particles and capped at one end, is being analyzed for the number of particulates that enter it. The scope includes theoretical modeling and potential equations applicable to fluid flow and particulate diffusion under specific conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests modeling the smaller tube as a constant-pressure system with a high-concentration particle source, drawing a parallel to thermal diffusion.
  • Another participant notes that an analytical solution might be possible for a straight tube scenario but questions the feasibility due to the 90-degree bend and the presence of fluid flow.
  • A participant clarifies that the smaller tube is initially filled with solvent without solute, which is a relevant assumption for the problem.
  • One participant emphasizes the challenge of applying a simple diffusion equation due to the constant flow and mentions the need to consider non-constant flow conditions driven by rhythmic pressure fluctuations.
  • A question is raised regarding the nature of the flow in the capped tube, seeking clarification on whether the configuration allows for a steady flow through the first tube.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of finding an analytical solution due to the complexities introduced by the tube configuration and flow conditions. There is no consensus on the best approach to model the situation or the implications of the capped tube on flow dynamics.

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Limitations include the assumption of incompressible fluid flow, the impact of the 90-degree junction on flow and diffusion, and the complexities introduced by rhythmic pressure fluctuations. The discussion does not resolve these aspects.

Who May Find This Useful

Researchers or students interested in fluid dynamics, particularly those exploring diffusion processes in complex geometries and flow conditions.

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I have two cylindrical tubes connected at a 90 degree junction. One tube has a constant flow of a laminar fluid going through it and the fluid is saturated by a soluble particulate with a known concentration. The other tube has a much smaller radius, initially has no particles and is closed at the unconnected end.

How do I find the number of particulates that enter the smaller, closed tube? What equations would be most suitable for this situation?
 
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Interesting problem. I would model the smaller tube as a constant-pressure system with a fixed high-concentration source of particles at one end, perhaps similar to thermal diffusion (constant heat source at one end).
 
Were this one straight tube split by some diaphragm with a high concentration on one side and zero on the other and the diaphragm were suddenly removed, this would be easily solved analytically using the diffusion equation. However, I imagine there is no analytical solution here on account of the 90-degree bend and the fact that you assume there is some flow going on as well.
 
That's a fair point; I assumed the smaller tube was initially full of (incompressible) solvent devoid of solute.
 
That is a fair assumption. In the experiment, it is. The only reason I can't use a simple diffusion equation is that constant flow. This is actually only a first step though, I need to find how much of the solute gets in the smaller tube when there is a non-constant flow. We can still assume that the laminar, non-compressible fluid is going straight down the larger tube, like water in a pipe. But it is driven by a rhythmic pressure fluctuation (like a heartbeat). I have access to COMSOL, but very little experience setting up this sort of thing.
 
How exactly do you have a steady flow if one end is capped off? That would seem to be impossible. Is the second tube connected so as to form a T with the first tube and allow a constant flow through the first tube or is it an L as you originally described?
 

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