Fluid mechanics and torque: Finding the equilibrium force on a hinged gate

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The discussion revolves around a fluid mechanics problem involving torque and a hinged gate. The original poster describes a scenario where a square gate is subjected to fluid pressure and an external force, seeking to determine the equilibrium force required to keep the gate stationary.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss calculating torques due to fluid pressure on different sections of the gate, with some attempting to integrate expressions for torque based on depth. Questions arise regarding the separation of the upper and lower halves of the gate and the resulting calculations.

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Some participants have provided alternative methods and calculations, leading to different results. There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations involved, with some confirming their answers while others suggest checking for errors. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and approaches without a clear consensus on the correct method.

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Participants note discrepancies in their calculations and results, indicating a need for careful verification of the mathematical steps involved. The original poster expresses confusion over the expected answer compared to their calculations.

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Fluid mechanics and torque...

Homework Statement


A square gate of size 1m*1m is hinged at its mid point. A fliud of density rho fills the space to the left of the gate. A force F is applied at the bottom of the gate towards right. Find value of F such that the gate is stationary...



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First i calculated the clockwise torque( which is due to the top half of the water)...

If i take an element dh at a depth h from the top then excess pressure on this part due to the water is rho*g*h so force is rho*g*h*dh*1 and toque due to this element is ... rho*g*h*(0.5 - h)dh...Integrating this expression with h varying from 0 to 0.5 m we get net torqe(due to upper half) as
rho*g*0.53/6...

Now calculating the anticlockwise torque(due to lower half) we get the expression for torque as rho*g*h*dh*(h-0.5)...integrating this with limits of h from 0.5 to 1 we get net torque due to this half as rho*g*0.375/6...
So net torque (which is anticlockwise) is (anticlock wise - clock wise torque) which come out to be equal to rho*g*.25/6...

This torque is equal to torque due to the force F...So F*.5= rho*g*.25/6...From here we get F=rho*g/12...but answer is rho *g/6...I tried it many times but i am still wrong...Please help...
 
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Please attach a diagram. Cannot figure it out correctly.
 


Heres the diagram...the left part is water...and the arrow gives the point of application of force...
 

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My answer came rho *g/6. The only thing I did differently was that I did not separate the upper and lower part. I used torque = rho*gh(h-0.5)dh
 


Now, I did it using your method still, I got the correct answer. I'll advise you to check your calculations
 


Abhishekdas said:
Now calculating the anticlockwise torque(due to lower half) we get the expression for torque as rho*g*h*dh*(h-0.5)...integrating this with limits of h from 0.5 to 1 we get net torque due to this half as rho*g*0.375/6...

Your answer here is 3*rho*g/48 while the answer should be 5*rho*g/48
 


Ya i made a mistake there...i checked it again with a calci and i got it now...
 

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