Fluid Mechanics: Determining Dimensions of dP/dx for Force and Distance

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The discussion revolves around determining the dimensions of the expression dP/dx in the context of fluid mechanics. The original poster is exploring the dimensional analysis of force (P) and distance (x), specifically questioning the correct interpretation of these dimensions.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the dimensions of dP/dx, initially assuming P represents force. Some participants question this assumption, suggesting that P might actually refer to pressure instead. Others provide insights into dimensional analysis, comparing derivatives to fractions.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the variable P and its implications for the dimensional analysis. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of derivatives in dimensional terms, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct interpretation of P.

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There is some confusion regarding the definition of P, as it is stated to be force by the original poster, while others suggest it may refer to pressure based on common usage in fluid mechanics. This ambiguity affects the dimensional analysis being discussed.

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I'm not sure if I should have posted in the advanced section, but this is for the class "fluid mechanics" which is an upper division course. However, the material I'm asking is mainly introductory stuff.

Determine the dimensions of dP/dx.
Where P is a force and x represents distance

So dimensions of P would be ML/T^2
Dimensions of dP/dx would be (ML/T^2)' = M/T^2

Is that right?
 
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Yes, that look's correct.

[Although, I've never seen anyone take a derivative of a dimensional expression as you did! Dimensionally, you can think of a derivative as just a fraction. So, the dimensions of dP/dx is just the dimensions of the numerator (P) divided by the dimensions of the denominator (x). Think of dP as essentially the same as ΔP which is a change in pressure and therefore has the dimensions of pressure. Similarly for dx.]
 
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Hey, thank you! I thought it was a weird problem too. I've never had to do something like this either, so I was a little skeptical about my own method.

I posted in the introductory forum an extension of this question https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=4050555#post4050555.
This one really confused me, I've never seen anything like it.
 
You said that P was force, but in this context, the professor must have meant that P is pressure. It looks like TSny inherently assumed that P is pressure, which is probably correct. The units of pressure can also be considered N/M2, so that dP/dx would have units of N/M3, or force per unit volume. I think that this is what your professor was getting at.

chet
 
No he stated that P was force.
 
TSny said:
Yes, that look's correct.

[Although, I've never seen anyone take a derivative of a dimensional expression as you did! Dimensionally, you can think of a derivative as just a fraction. So, the dimensions of dP/dx is just the dimensions of the numerator (P) divided by the dimensions of the denominator (x). Think of dP as essentially the same as ΔP which is a change in pressure and therefore has the dimensions of pressure. Similarly for dx.]

Ugh, I mean't to say force instead of pressure. :redface: Sorry, Chestermiller and pyroknife.
 

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