Fnd the area A of the triangle with the given the vertices

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The discussion revolves around finding the area of a triangle given its vertices at (0, 0), (3, 5), and (1, 8). Participants explore different methods for calculating the area, including the use of integrals and algebraic approaches.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the slopes and equations for the lines connecting the triangle's vertices and sets up integrals to find the area, arriving at an answer of 117/4, which they believe is incorrect.
  • Another participant questions the calculation of the y-intercept for the line between (1, 8) and (3, 5), seeking clarification on the algebra used.
  • There is a correction regarding the y-intercept, with a participant suggesting it should be 19/2 instead of 19.
  • Multiple participants engage in a back-and-forth about the correct calculation of the y-intercept, with some expressing confusion over the steps taken.
  • One participant suggests that if calculus is not specifically required, the area could be calculated directly from the vertex coordinates, referencing the Shoelace formula as an alternative method.
  • There is a suggestion that if this is a homework problem, it should be posted in the appropriate section of the forum.

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Participants express differing views on the correct method for calculating the area of the triangle, with some advocating for the use of integrals while others suggest a direct algebraic approach. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct setup and calculations.

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There are unresolved questions about the algebraic steps taken to determine the y-intercept and the appropriateness of using calculus for this problem. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the setup of the integrals and the correctness of the area calculation.

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(0, 0), (3, 5), (1, 8)

Find the slopes and equations for each line

(0,0) ----> (3,5) = 5/3x
(0,0)---->(1,8) = 8x
(1,8)---->(3,5) = -3/2x+ 19

Then I set up the integrals (on x)

Integral sign from 0 to 1 (8x-5/3x)dx + Integral sign from 1 to 3 [(-3/2x+19)-5/3x) dx

I got 117/4 as an answer and that's wrong. My algebra/arithmetic isn't wrong (i triple checked it) so it must have something to do with the set up. What's wrong with it?
 
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For the line specified by (1,8) and (3,5), what algebra/arithmetic did you use to get a y-intercept of 19?
 
that should be

(0,0) ----> (3,5) = 5/3x
(0,0)---->(1,8) = 8x
(1,8)---->(3,5) = -3/2x+ 19/2[/color]

I suppose the directions asked for an integral it is not the best way otherwise
 
lewando said:
For the line specified by (1,8) and (3,5), what algebra/arithmetic did you use to get a y-intercept of 19?
3+8*2=19
then divide by 2
 
Wait, 19/2?

y=mx+b
For the slope i got (-3/2)
used point (3,5)
5=-3/2(3)+b
10=-9
19=b

Did I do something wrong?
 
should be
Medtner said:
Wait, 19/2?

y=mx+b
For the slope i got (-3/2)
used point (3,5)
5=-3/2(3)+b
10=-9+2b
19=2b
b=19/2[/color]

Did I do something wrong?
 
Where did you get the 2b from?
 
when you multiply both sides by 2 also multiply b
 
Have you been specifically told to use calculus for this problem ?

If not then the area of the triangle can be calculated directly from the vertex coordinates .

Try searching on ' finding area of a triangle using coordinate geometry '

and for general interest ' Shoelace formula '

If this is homework then it should really be in the PF homework section .
 

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