Force and Motion Sliding/Hanging Blocks

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves three masses connected by cords over a pulley, with a focus on determining the tension in the cord and the distance moved by one of the masses after a short time. The subject area pertains to dynamics, specifically the analysis of forces and motion in a system of connected objects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to find the acceleration of the system and the net forces acting on the masses. There are attempts to apply equations of motion and considerations of forces, including gravitational forces on the hanging masses. Some participants express uncertainty about the correct approach and calculations.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with some participants offering guidance on how to approach the calculation of acceleration and tension. A participant acknowledges a mistake in their calculations, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Assumptions regarding friction are noted, with some participants questioning whether it is negligible. The original poster expresses confusion about the setup and calculations, indicating a need for clarification on the relationships between the forces involved.

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Homework Statement


In Figure 5-52, three ballot boxes are connected by cords, one of which wraps over a pulley having negligible friction on its axle and negligible mass. The masses are mA = 30.0 kg, mB = 42.0 kg, and mC = 14.0 kg. When the assembly is released from rest, (a) what is the tension in the cord connecting B and C, and (b) how far does A move in the first 0.260 s (assuming it does not reach the pulley)?

... there is block a which is on the surface and block b and c are hanging over the edge pulling it down.



Homework Equations


fnet = ma
T = ma
Fgc - T = ma
Fgb - T = ma

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do, i thought of subtracting the equations, but i don't think that will work based on what I'm looking at and i don't think substitution of a variable t or a will work... help?
 
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To answer both questions, you need to determine the acceleration of the system. This requires finding the net force of the system. This can be done with a bit of a shortcut: treat all forces in one, not two dimensions. The downward force on the hanging mass is the "same direction" as the sideways forces toward the pulley. It's not exactly correct, but it works out if the pulley is massless and frictionless.

Note: when summing all forces, the tensions are interior, and therefore do not contribute to the net force on the system.
 
There is no mention of friction force - I guess you assume it is zero.
The force causing the whole chain of masses to accelerate is the force of gravity on the hanging masses. Use that to calculate the acceleration.

The tension in the cord is the force acting on mass A, causing it to accelerate at the rate you have already calculated.
 
I don't seem to be getting the correct answer... this is what i did for the system:

The only forces i see that contribute to the acceleration are Fgb and Fgc... they are 411.6 and 137.2 respectively. Fgb + Fgc = ma... solving this i get 9.8 m/s^2 obviously gravity. But when i do T = ma on block a to solve for tension using 9.8, i don't ge tthe correct answer??

edit: wait i didn't include the mass of block a for calculating the acceleration. Thats probably my mistake.

edit 2: Yes it was my mistake! =)
Thanks for the help!
 
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