Force of parallel plate capacitor

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The discussion revolves around calculating the force exerted by one plate of a parallel-plate capacitor on the other, given specific parameters such as plate area, separation distance, and charge magnitude. The subject area includes concepts from electrostatics and capacitor theory.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the electric field and the force using various equations related to capacitors. Questions arise about the appropriateness of values used for constants and the interpretation of specific variables in the equations.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem, with participants providing feedback on calculations and clarifying assumptions. Some participants have offered alternative values for constants and questioned the accuracy of initial approximations.

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Participants note potential typos in the original problem setup and discuss the implications of using different values for the permittivity of free space. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to refine calculations and ensure accuracy without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement


A parallel-plate capacitor has a plate area of .3m^2 and a plate separation of .1mm. If the charge on ech plate has a magnitude of 5*10^-6C then the force exerted by one plate on the other has what magnitude

Homework Equations


Q=E Ԑ A
F=qE

The Attempt at a Solution


so to solve for E i used the first equation: 5*10^-6C=E*(10^-11)(.2) and got E=1.67*10^6 V/m
First i want to make sure that i am moving in the right direction and also do i use 5*10^-6C as my q in the second equation?
 
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U= (Q^2)/(2c) = (Q^2)/(2ԐA) d and F=(dU)/(dd) = (-Q^2)/ (2ԐA)?
so F= (5*10^-6C)^2/(2 * 10^-11 *.3)?

is the answer then 4N?
 
Your approximation for the value of ##\epsilon_o## is very crude. A good value would be ##\epsilon_o = 8.854 \times 10^{-12}~ F/m##, but even ##9 \times 10^{-12}~F/m## would be better.

The appropriate approach to this problem is to find the electric field due to a single charged plate and then determine the force that it exerts on the charge of the other plate. Note that between the plates of a parallel plate capacitor the net field is due to the contribution of the fields from both plates; each plate contributes half the total field.
rgold said:
so to solve for E i used the first equation: 5*10^-6C=E*(10^-11)(.2) and got E=1.67*10^6 V/m
What does the "(.2)" value represent?
 
gneill said:
Your approximation for the value of ##\epsilon_o## is very crude. A good value would be ##\epsilon_o = 8.854 \times 10^{-12}~ F/m##, but even ##9 \times 10^{-12}~F/m## would be better.

The appropriate approach to this problem is to find the electric field due to a single charged plate and then determine the force that it exerts on the charge of the other plate. Note that between the plates of a parallel plate capacitor the net field is due to the contribution of the fields from both plates; each plate contributes half the total field.

What does the "(.2)" value represent?

that was a typo i meant to write .3 m^2. ok i used the 8.85*10^-12 and got 4.71N is this more accurate
 
rgold said:
that was a typo i meant to write .3 m^2. ok i used the 8.85*10^-12 and got 4.71N is this more accurate
That would be a good answer :smile:
 
gneill said:
That would be a good answer :smile:
thank you very much!
 

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