Force on Three Parallel Electrical Sheets

Click For Summary
The discussion centers on calculating the electrical force on three parallel charged sheets with specific surface charge densities. The electric field for each sheet is determined by the superposition of the fields generated by the other sheets, with the electric field from a sheet canceling out on its own sides. The calculations yield forces of 3.2pi, 1.4pi, and 1.8pi for sheets A, B, and C, respectively. There is a clarification on the use of pi in the answers, suggesting it relates to simplifying calculations involving the permittivity of free space. The final consensus is that the initial reasoning and calculations are correct, despite some confusion regarding the presence of pi.
rbrayana123
Messages
43
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



Consider three plane charged sheets, A, B and C. The sheets are parallel with B below A and C below B. On each sheet, there is a surface charge of uniform density:
-(4/3) * 10^-5 (Call α)
-(7/3) * 10^-5 (Call β)
-(3/3) * 10^-5. (Call γ)

(The density given includes charge on both sides of the sheet). What is the magnitude of the electrical force on each sheet, in N/m^2

Answers are 3.2pi, 1.4pi and 1.8pi.

Homework Equations


For an infinite plane, the electrical field strength is:

σ/2ε where ε is 8.85 * 10^-12 and σ is charge density.

Also, Force = Electric Field * Charge

The Attempt at a Solution


dF = EΩdA or
dF/dA = EΩ where Ω is the charge density of the plane whose force is being calculated

(Can someone verify if this line of reasoning is correct?):

The electric field for any patch of area on A should be the average of the electric fields above and below. This comes out to simply be the superposition of the electric fields generated by sheets B & C because the electric field generated by A cancel out on both sides.

Therefore, for a small patch of area on A, E:

E = (β+γ)/2ε

Finally:

dF/dA = (β+γ)α/2ε = 8pi

For Sheets B & C:
dF/dA = (abs(-α+γ))β/2ε = 1.4pi
dF/dA = (α+β)γ/2ε = 6.6pi

EDIT: So I did a quick test to check something. Apparently if I subtract the two density charge contributions for the electric field for Sheets A & C, I get the right answer but this has only made sense for Sheet B because the electric fields were in opposite directions. For Sheet A, the electric fields are both pointing down towards B & C while for Sheet C, the electric fields are both pointing up towards A & B.

Also, I'm curious as to why the answers have pi in it. All my calculations simply didn't require it. Is there another way to do this?
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
Your solution looks correct. I think pi is used to replace 1/ε with 4pik≈36 pi 109 which makes calculations with hand possible.

ehild
 
Thanks. Guess the book was wrong =)
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

Similar threads

  • · Replies 26 ·
Replies
26
Views
3K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
1K
Replies
9
Views
4K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
12K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
6K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
7K
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K