Force required for cutting sheet metal

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the force required to cut sheet metal using an electrically powered shear machine. Participants explore various factors influencing the cutting force, including blade angle, material thickness, ultimate tensile strength (UTS), and the geometry of the cutting area. The conversation includes technical calculations and considerations related to the design of the cutting mechanism.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the blade angle to the cutting surface is not constant, which may increase the required cutting force as the shearing process progresses.
  • One participant suggests calculating the cutting force based on the length of the blade in contact with the metal and the shear force equation.
  • There is a discussion about how the clearance between the punch and die affects cut quality and the calculation of cutting force.
  • Participants propose using the formula for peak punch force, which involves UTS and the area being sheared, but there is uncertainty about how to define the area accurately.
  • Some participants express the need for additional dimensions to validate calculations, particularly regarding the height of the sheet above the hinge and the depth of the blade.
  • One participant suggests a conservative estimate for the cutting force based on professional judgment, while another emphasizes the need for precise calculations.
  • There are discussions about the mechanical advantage of the electric cutter and how it will be powered, indicating a need for clarity on design specifics.
  • Several participants encourage sketching to clarify the cutting process and dimensions involved, highlighting the importance of visual aids in understanding the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the calculations and assumptions regarding the cutting force. There is no consensus on the exact force required, as various factors and uncertainties are acknowledged throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention limitations in their calculations due to missing dimensions and the complexity of the cutting angle. The discussion reflects a reliance on estimates and professional judgment in the absence of precise formulas for the specific cutting scenario presented.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in mechanical engineering, manufacturing processes, and those working with cutting tools or machinery may find this discussion relevant.

  • #31
eng_taha_a said:
this dimension is about 100 mm

So at the end of a 1000mm cut I make the blade angle about 5.8 degrees, the length of the cut about 15mm and the triangular area under the blade about 11sq mm.

The eqns linked to by Asymptotic in #2 and jrmichler in #5 are similar and suggest the cutting force is some factor between 0.7 and 1.5 multiplied by UST multiplied by the area, so somewhere between..

0.7*350*11 = 2700N
and
1.5*350*11 = 5800N

Lets call it 6,000N.

eng_taha_a said:
will it be 420,875 N or less or more ?

The force required is considerably less.

The torque required is the force multiplied by the length of the blade so 6000 * 1m = 6000 Newton Meters.

eng_taha_a said:
this is the electric motor vision and ,but not the final decision

I notice that the arm that connects the electric actuator to the blade is shorter than the blade. Let's call the length of the actuator arm "L" (meters). Then the force the actuator would have to produce is: 6000/L Newtons.
 
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