Forced Harmonic Oscillator with Path Integral

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The discussion revolves around computing the transition amplitude of a forced harmonic oscillator using the method of path integration. Participants explore various approaches, mathematical formulations, and the implications of their methods within the context of quantum mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Mr. Fogg initially asks how to compute the transition amplitude for the forced harmonic oscillator using path integration.
  • One participant suggests taking the Fourier transformation of the path, completing the square, and normalizing the expression to find the transition amplitude as a path-independent term.
  • Another participant proposes an ansatz where the position is expressed as a classical solution plus a variation, leading to a kernel expression involving the classical action and a normalization constant.
  • Mr. Fogg provides a Lagrangian and expresses the transition amplitude in terms of the classical action and an integral over variations, seeking to derive a specific matrix expression for the transition amplitude.
  • A later reply offers a link to a resource on Gaussian integrals and suggests that the determinant of a matrix involved in the calculations may not be crucial, while also providing a classical solution related to the Lagrangian.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present various methods and interpretations without reaching a consensus on the best approach or the specifics of the transition amplitude's matrix expression. Multiple competing views and techniques remain evident throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some mathematical steps and assumptions are not fully resolved, particularly regarding the normalization constant and the determinant of the matrix involved in the transition amplitude calculation.

Phileas.Fogg
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Hello,
how do I compute the transition amplitude of the forced harmonic oscillator with the method of path integration?

Regards,
Mr. Fogg
 
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Do you mean the vacuum to vacuum transition amplitude? You take the Fourier transformation of the path, plug the path into the functional, complete the square to separate out a path-independent term and a path-dependent term, shift the path so that the path-dependent term is no longer a function of the source, then set the whole expression equal to 1 when the source is zero to correctly normalize it, and this will show you that the transition amplitude is the path-independent term.
 
Phileas.Fogg said:
Hello,
how do I compute the transition amplitude of the forced harmonic oscillator with the method of path integration?

Regards,
Mr. Fogg

Make the ansatz: [tex]x=\bar{x}+y[/tex], where [tex]\bar{x}[/tex] is the classical solution. Then we can write the "variation" y as a Fourier expansion in time. Thus the kernel K[b,a] is

[tex]K[b,a]=\e^{\frac{i}{\hbar}S_{cl}[b,a]}F[T][/tex]

and normalization constant in F(T) could be found by the limit w->0 (free particle case). The action of the classical trajectory could be obtained using the Green function. We have the system: x''+w^2x=f(t)/m and BC x(ta)=Xa and x(tb)=Xb. The Lagrangian could then be obtained if we know x(t) which is given as:

[tex]\bar{x}(t)=\int_{ta}^{tb}G(t,\chi)f(t)/m\cdot d\chi[/tex]

Hope this helps you a bit...
Per
 
HI!
Thanks for your help.

The Lagrangian is
[tex]L = \frac{1}{2} m \dot{x}^2 - \frac{1}{2} m \omega^2 x^2 + J(t) x[/tex]

I started with:

[tex]x = x_{cl} + y[/tex]

and showed that the transition amplitude can be written as

[tex]U(x_a,x_b,t_b) = \exp(-\frac{i}{\hbar}S(x_{cl})) + \int_{y(0)=0}^{y(t_{b})=0} [dy]\exp(-\frac{i}{\hbar} \int_0^{t_{b}} dt \frac{1}{2}m (\dot{y}^2 - \omega^2 y^2)[/tex]

Now I wan't to show with Path Integration that the transition amplitude is then

[tex]U(x_a, x_b, t_b) = \lim\limits_{N \rightarrow \infty}\frac{m}{2 \pi i \hbar \epsilon Q_{N-1}} e^{\frac{i}{\hbar} S(x_{cl})} \quad \text{(1.1)}[/tex]

with [tex]\epsilon = \frac{t_b}{N} \quad Q_{N-1} = det(A)[/tex]

A is a quadratic Matrix.

I don't know, how to get the Matrix-Expression (1.1) of the transition amplitude.

Regards,
Mr.Fogg
 
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Maybe this link will help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_integral#n-dimensional_and_functional_generalization

The det(A) doesn't really matter.

As I think already has been mentioned, for your particular problem (no more than quadratic in q), you can also find the classical solution to your Lagrangian, and plug that solution into your Lagrangian. The classical solution should be:

[tex]q(t)=\int \frac{d^4n}{(2\pi)^4} \frac{f(n)}{m(\omega^2-n^2)}e^{-int}[/tex]

where f(n) is the Fourier-Transform of f(t).
 

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