Forces of attraction inside atom

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The discussion revolves around the forces of attraction within an atom, specifically focusing on the interaction between protons in the nucleus and electrons. Participants explore the implications of varying the number of electrons while keeping the number of protons constant, as well as the effects on the electromagnetic field strength and electric field contributions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether an electron would be pulled closer to a nucleus with a constant number of protons if there is only one electron, assuming no repulsion between electrons.
  • Another participant asserts that the electromagnetic strength of a field does not decrease when it acts on more charges, but does not provide further clarification.
  • A participant inquires about whether the electric field is affected or distorted by the presence of charges.
  • One participant suggests that neglecting the electric field contributions from the electrons leads to a conclusion that the field remains unchanged, but acknowledges that the scenario would differ if only one electron were present.
  • Another participant emphasizes that while both electrons generate electric fields, these fields do not influence each other.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effects of the number of electrons on the electromagnetic field and electric field contributions, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the interactions between electrons and the nature of electric fields are not fully explored, and the discussion does not resolve the implications of these assumptions.

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Hello my fellow physic-doers,

If say a nucleus containing 2 protons pulls on 2 electrons. Will the electron be pulled closer if the number of protons is constant but there is only one electron assuming there was no repulsion between 2 electrons in the first case? Does the electromagnetic strentgh of a field decrease if it acts on more charges?

Thanks for any responses
 
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gladius999 said:
Hello my fellow physic-doers,

If say a nucleus containing 2 protons pulls on 2 electrons. Will the electron be pulled closer if the number of protons is constant but there is only one electron assuming there was no repulsion between 2 electrons in the first case? Does the electromagnetic strentgh of a field decrease if it acts on more charges?

Thanks for any responses

Nope.
 
does the electric field get affected at all. i.e get smaller/distorted?
 
Well since we seem to be neglecting the electric field contributions from the electrons in the first place, the answer would be no. If you do want to consider the electrons, obviously this would change if there was only one as opposed to two.
 
i meant that the electrons both have a field except that the fields of the electrons do not affect each other
 

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