Forces that could cause an objects acceleration to increase when weights added

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The discussion centers on the unexpected increase in acceleration of a wagon propelled by a spring when the first weight is added, despite the expectation that acceleration should decrease according to Newton's second law (F=ma). Participants noted that the initial weight may enhance wheel-ground contact, improving energy transfer from the spring mechanism. However, subsequent weights lead to a decrease in acceleration, likely due to increased friction and drag forces. The conversation highlights the complexities of real-world physics versus theoretical predictions.

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  • Understanding of Newton's second law of motion (F=ma)
  • Basic principles of friction and drag forces
  • Knowledge of mechanical systems and energy transfer
  • Familiarity with experimental physics and real-world system behavior
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  • Explore the concept of wheel slip and its impact on acceleration
  • Study the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration in real-world applications
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Physics students, mechanical engineers, and hobbyists experimenting with propulsion systems will benefit from this discussion, particularly those interested in the dynamics of weight and acceleration in mechanical systems.

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I have propelled a wagon by a spring that gives out a constant force with various weights added and the wagons acceleration when the first weight is added increases from what it was with no weights. When the next weights are added the acceleration fall from what it rose to but I'm stumped.

Why does that acceleration increase if anything I thought it should decrease since F=ma and the force remains same while mass increases so in theory acceleration should decrease especially since the friction it experiences should increase and so should drag.


Daniel
 
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danielm93 said:
I have propelled a wagon by a spring that gives out a constant force with various weights added and the wagons acceleration when the first weight is added increases from what it was with no weights. When the next weights are added the acceleration fall from what it rose to but I'm stumped.

Why does that acceleration increase if anything I thought it should decrease since F=ma and the force remains same while mass increases so in theory acceleration should decrease especially since the friction it experiences should increase and so should drag.


Daniel

It's hard to say, because you are dealing with an imperfect real system. My guess is that the first weight causes the wheels to be in firmer contact with the ground, so that the energy from your drive train (spring) is more efficiently converted into forward motion. However, without knowing the details of your system, it is impossible to know if this is on the right track or not. Is there any "slipping" of the wheels when the wagon is empty, which goes away when you add the first weight?
 

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