Forces with Tension and pulleys

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The discussion focuses on the mechanics of using a block-and-tackle system with two pulleys to move a mass of 2.5 metric tonnes (2500 kg) across a yard. The maximum tension in the thin rope is rated at 80 lbs (356 N), which is crucial for calculating the tension at various points in the system. The tension at points A, B, C, and D is determined to be 356 N, while the tension in the thick rope at point E is calculated to be 24500 N. Additionally, the maximum allowable coefficient of friction for dragging the steps at constant velocity is discussed, with a given coefficient of 0.15 requiring an additional force directed to the right to maintain motion.

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  1. I had a set of old concrete steps, with a mass of about 2.5 metric tonnes (i.e., 2500 kg), which needed to be dragged across the yard. One way to make the job easier was to rig a block-and-tackle, which consisted of two pulleys. I used a thick rope to tie one pulley to the stairs to be moved. I used another thick rope to tie the other pulley to a large tree. Then, I threaded a thin rope around each pulley twice, as sketched below. Unfortunately, the thin rope was only rated for a maximum tension of 80 lbs., which is 356N. Beyond this point, it began stretching without the tension increasing very much, so let us assume that the maximum rated tension is applied to the thin rope.
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  1. Consider the pulley that is tied to the stairs. If the pulleys are all frictionless, what is the tension in the thin rope at points A, B, C, and D?
  2. In view of your answer to part a), draw a free-body diagram for the pulley. (Hint: how many strands of rope are pulling it to the right, and how many ropes are pulling it to the left? You may assume all ropes are approximately horizontal). What must be the tension in the thick rope at point E?
  3. Continue to assume that the maximum tension is applied to the thin rope. If the steps are to be dragged at a constant velocity over level ground, what is the maximum allowable coefficient of friction between the steps and the ground?
  4. Suppose now that the coefficient of friction is actually 0.15. The maximum amount of tension is still applied to the thin rope. How much additional force, directed horizontally, must be applied towards in order to drag the steps at constant velocity, and is that additional force to the right, or to the left?

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Ok so I don't know if I got these right but my attempt was this so far.

1. So I think A,B,C,D should be the same so I got t=mg/4 =(2500kg*9.80(m/s^2))/4 = 6125 N.
2. My attempt at the FBD pic below The Tension in point E should just be the sum right? So it would be 24500 N.
3. This is where I am stuck Here is where I am at on it. So I don't If I am doing this right or not.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
 

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1. & 2. Doesn't the problem give you the tension in the thin rope at one end? Wouldn't the answers in 1) and 2) be based on this?

3. Is the block accelerating?

4. Is the additional force being applied on the block directly?
 
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Oh, so for 1) the Tension should just be 89N each. And then for 3) the u_k = Tension in E/ mg.
 
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That sounds better.
 
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And for the last part I am a little stumped. The additional force would be to the right, but I can not figure out how to actually show that.
 
Do the same thing as you did in part 3. Make an assumption about the direction and see what answer you get.
 
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Thanks for the help! The only thing I screwed up was the first part. It was 356N. For some reason I divided it by 4, but everything else was right.
 

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