Forming an Image Behind a Convex Mirror

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In the discussion about forming an image behind a convex mirror, participants explore the relationship between object distance, image distance, and focal length using the mirror formula. The focal length of a convex mirror is identified as negative, which influences the calculations for image formation. It is clarified that convex mirrors always produce virtual images, meaning the object distance (do) must be positive. The greatest distance behind the mirror where an image can be formed is ultimately determined to be infinity, as virtual images appear to be located at an infinite distance behind the mirror. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the sign conventions in optics.
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Homework Statement




An object is placed in front of a
convex mirror whose radius of
curvature is R. What is the greatest
distance behind the mirror that an
image can be formed?

A. Infinity
B. R
C. R/2
D. No image can be formed.

Homework Equations



1/do + 1/di = 1/f

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure if I know how to approach this problem. Will you give me a hint to help get started?
 
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you can work out what f is if you know R.

Then try putting the image at each place offered to you as a possibility and work out where the object must be. (Obviously, start with the furthest distance - infinity)
 
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Hi.

1 / ∞ + 1 / do = 1 / f

We know 1 / ∞ will go to zero so that leaves us with do = f. Is this answer wrong because we know the object distance can never equal the focal length?

1 / R + 1 / do = 1 / f .

If we know 2f = R, we can substitute.

1 / 2f + 1 / do = 1 / f

2 / 2do = 1 / 2f - 2 / 2f

2 / 2do = -1 / 2f

Is this the correct answer because the focal length is negative?

1 / R / 2 + 1 / do = 1 / f

2R + 1 / do = 1 / f

1 / do = 1 / f - 2R
I'm not sure why this is wrong (if it is).
 
1/ What makes you say that the object distance can't equal the focal length?

2/ Think about the significance of do being positive or negative - what does that mean?
 
1. This was an assumption I made I can't support.

2. The sign of do gives a little insight as to what type of mirror is being used. When the object or image is on the reflecting side of the mirror, the corresponding distance is positive. Otherwise, it is negative. Convex mirrors always produce virtual images so do should be positive for a convex mirror.
3. The focal length of convex mirrors are always negative.
 
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