Forming an Image Behind a Convex Mirror

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the maximum distance behind a convex mirror where an image can be formed, given the radius of curvature. The context is within optics, specifically the behavior of convex mirrors and their focal lengths.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between object distance, image distance, and focal length using the mirror equation. There are attempts to substitute known values and explore the implications of the focal length being negative for convex mirrors. Questions arise regarding the validity of certain assumptions about object distance and its relationship to the focal length.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem and questioning assumptions about object and image distances. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the focal length in convex mirrors, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of the sign conventions for distances in mirror equations, particularly in the context of convex mirrors, which produce virtual images. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity on the definitions and assumptions being made.

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Homework Statement




An object is placed in front of a
convex mirror whose radius of
curvature is R. What is the greatest
distance behind the mirror that an
image can be formed?

A. Infinity
B. R
C. R/2
D. No image can be formed.

Homework Equations



1/do + 1/di = 1/f

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure if I know how to approach this problem. Will you give me a hint to help get started?
 
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you can work out what f is if you know R.

Then try putting the image at each place offered to you as a possibility and work out where the object must be. (Obviously, start with the furthest distance - infinity)
 
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Hi.

1 / ∞ + 1 / do = 1 / f

We know 1 / ∞ will go to zero so that leaves us with do = f. Is this answer wrong because we know the object distance can never equal the focal length?

1 / R + 1 / do = 1 / f .

If we know 2f = R, we can substitute.

1 / 2f + 1 / do = 1 / f

2 / 2do = 1 / 2f - 2 / 2f

2 / 2do = -1 / 2f

Is this the correct answer because the focal length is negative?

1 / R / 2 + 1 / do = 1 / f

2R + 1 / do = 1 / f

1 / do = 1 / f - 2R
I'm not sure why this is wrong (if it is).
 
1/ What makes you say that the object distance can't equal the focal length?

2/ Think about the significance of do being positive or negative - what does that mean?
 
1. This was an assumption I made I can't support.

2. The sign of do gives a little insight as to what type of mirror is being used. When the object or image is on the reflecting side of the mirror, the corresponding distance is positive. Otherwise, it is negative. Convex mirrors always produce virtual images so do should be positive for a convex mirror.
3. The focal length of convex mirrors are always negative.
 

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