Four Charged Particles in a Square

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The problem involves four charged particles arranged in a square, with specific charge values assigned to each particle. The objective is to determine the ratio of one charge to another under the condition that the net electrostatic force on one of the particles is zero.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to analyze the forces acting on particle 1 by drawing a free body diagram and calculating the resultant forces from particles 2, 3, and 4. Some participants question the method used to find the resultant of the forces from particles 2 and 3, suggesting a need to consider vector components.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively engaging in clarifying the approach to calculating the resultant forces. One participant acknowledges a mistake in their understanding of vector addition, indicating a productive direction in the conversation.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the need to balance forces for the net force on particle 1 to be zero, and the original poster's calculations are noted as not yielding the expected answer.

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Homework Statement


In the figure below, four particles form a square. The charges are q1 = +Q, q2 = q3 = q, and q4 = -5.25Q. What is q/Q if the net electrostatic force on particle 1 is zero?
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Homework Equations


F=k|q1||q2|/r2
a2+b2=c2


The Attempt at a Solution


I first drew a free body diagram of particle one with the forces of particles 2 and 3. Their resultant force needs to balance exactly the force of particle 4 in order for the net force on particle 1 to be zero.

Forces 2 and 3 both equal kQq/a2 so their resultant is 2kQq/a2.

The distance between particle 1 and 4 i called c. a2+b2=c2. In this case a and b are both a(according to the diagram) so: a2+a2=c2. Thus c=a[tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex].

I used this to get the force of 4 on 1: kQ|-5.25Q|/a[tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex]2, which when simplified becomes 5.25q2k/2a2.

In setting this equal to the resultant of forces 2 and 3, I end up with 5.25/4=1.31=q/Q. This is not coming up as the right answer.
 
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Check your resultant for forces 2 and 3. They form vector components and so should be added accordingly to find the magnitude of the resultant.
 
Okay wow, thanks! Hehe, totally forgot how to find the resultant of two vectors I guess. :P Good call, I got it now!
 
F2+F3=[tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex]kQq/a2
 

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