Four complex points lie on a circle proof

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving four complex numbers and their geometric properties, specifically whether they lie on a circle or a straight line based on the equality of certain angles formed by their differences. The subject area includes complex analysis and geometry, particularly focusing on Mobius transformations and properties of complex numbers.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the angles of the complex number quotients and the geometric arrangement of the points. There are attempts to connect the equality of angles to the real nature of the cross ratio. Some participants suggest using Mobius transformations to simplify the problem, while others question how to express the complex numbers in a suitable form for analysis.

Discussion Status

Several participants are exploring different approaches to understand the implications of the angle equality. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of Mobius transformations and the concept of the cross ratio, indicating a productive direction in the discussion. However, there is no explicit consensus on the final approach or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem is part of self-study rather than formal homework, which may influence the depth of exploration and the types of questions raised. There is also mention of the need to prove certain properties related to angles and complex numbers without assuming prior knowledge of specific theorems or formulas.

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This isn't really homework. I'm studying What Is Mathematics by myself. But I'm very stuck on one of its exercises.

Homework Statement



Prove that if for four complex numbers z_{1}, z_{2}, z_{3} and z_{4} the angles of \frac{z_{3} - z_{1}}{z_{3} - z_{2}} and \frac{z_{4} - z_{1}}{z_{4} - z_{2}} are the same, then the four numbers lie on a circle or on a straight line, and conversely.


Homework Equations



x^{2} + y^{2} = r^{2} and ax + b = c?

The Attempt at a Solution



I can prove that the quotient between two complex numbers with the same angle is real, using the trigonometric form of the complex numbers (z = \rho(\cos(\phi) + i\sin(\phi)). I have \frac{z_{3} - z_{1}}{z_{3} - z_{2}} = \rho_{123}(\cos(\phi) + i \sin(\phi)) and \frac{z_{4} - z_{1}}{z_{4} - z_{2}} = \rho_{124}(\cos(\phi) + i \sin(\phi)).

Between two complex numbers, z and z', if the angle between the two are real, then:

\frac{z}{z'} = \frac{\rho_{z}(cos(\phi) + i \sin(\phi))}{\rho_{z'}(\cos(\phi) + i \sin(\phi))} = \frac{\rho_{z}}{\rho_{z'}}(\cos(\phi - \phi) + i \sin(\phi - \phi)) = \frac{\rho_{z}}{\rho_{z'}}(\cos{0} + i \sin {0}) = \frac{\rho_{z}}{\rho_{z'}}

I have \frac{z_{3} - z_{1}}{z_{3} - z_{2}} = \rho_{123}(\cos(\phi) + i \sin(\phi)) and \frac{z_{4} - z_{1}}{z_{4} - z_{2}} = \rho_{124}(\cos(\phi) + i \sin(\phi)) so that \frac{\frac{z_{3} - z_{1}}{z_{3} - z_{2}}} {\frac{z_{4} - z_{1}}{z_{4} - z_{2}}}= \frac{\rho_{123}}{\rho_{124}}.

What I am not understanding is how this means that all four complex points lie on a circle or a straight line? Should I reduce the \frac{\frac{z_{3} - z_{1}}{z_{3} - z_{2}}} {\frac{z_{4} - z_{1}}{z_{4} - z_{2}}} to their a + bi components to try to get them into the form for the equation of a circle? So that \frac{\frac{z_{3} - z_{1}}{z_{3} - z_{2}}} {\frac{z_{4} - z_{1}}{z_{4} - z_{2}}} = \frac{\frac{(a_{3} + ib_{3}) - (a_{1} + ib_{1})}{(a_{3} + ib{3}) - (a_{2} + ib{2})}}{\frac{(a_{4} + ib_{4}) - (a_{1} + ib_{1})}{(a_{4} + ib_{4}) - (a_{2} + ib_{2})}}?

Does anyone have a hint for this problem?
 
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QuantumP7 said:
This isn't really homework. I'm studying What Is Mathematics by myself. But I'm very stuck on one of its exercises.

Homework Statement



Prove that if for four complex numbers z_{1}, z_{2}, z_{3} and z_{4} the angles of \frac{z_{3} - z_{1}}{z_{3} - z_{2}} and \frac{z_{4} - z_{1}}{z_{4} - z_{2}} are the same, then the four numbers lie on a circle or on a straight line, and conversely.

Homework Equations



x^{2} + y^{2} = r^{2} and ax + b = c?

The Attempt at a Solution



I can prove that the quotient between two complex numbers with the same angle is real, using the trigonometric form of the complex numbers (z = \rho(\cos(\phi) + i\sin(\phi)). I have \frac{z_{3} - z_{1}}{z_{3} - z_{2}} = \rho_{123}(\cos(\phi) + i \sin(\phi)) and \frac{z_{4} - z_{1}}{z_{4} - z_{2}} = \rho_{124}(\cos(\phi) + i \sin(\phi)).

Between two complex numbers, z and z', if the angle between the two are real, then:

\frac{z}{z'} = \frac{\rho_{z}(cos(\phi) + i \sin(\phi))}{\rho_{z'}(\cos(\phi) + i \sin(\phi))} = \frac{\rho_{z}}{\rho_{z'}}(\cos(\phi - \phi) + i \sin(\phi - \phi)) = \frac{\rho_{z}}{\rho_{z'}}(\cos{0} + i \sin {0}) = \frac{\rho_{z}}{\rho_{z'}}

I have \frac{z_{3} - z_{1}}{z_{3} - z_{2}} = \rho_{123}(\cos(\phi) + i \sin(\phi)) and \frac{z_{4} - z_{1}}{z_{4} - z_{2}} = \rho_{124}(\cos(\phi) + i \sin(\phi)) so that \frac{\frac{z_{3} - z_{1}}{z_{3} - z_{2}}} {\frac{z_{4} - z_{1}}{z_{4} - z_{2}}}= \frac{\rho_{123}}{\rho_{124}}.

What I am not understanding is how this means that all four complex points lie on a circle or a straight line? Should I reduce the \frac{\frac{z_{3} - z_{1}}{z_{3} - z_{2}}} {\frac{z_{4} - z_{1}}{z_{4} - z_{2}}} to their a + bi components to try to get them into the form for the equation of a circle? So that \frac{\frac{z_{3} - z_{1}}{z_{3} - z_{2}}} {\frac{z_{4} - z_{1}}{z_{4} - z_{2}}} = \frac{\frac{(a_{3} + ib_{3}) - (a_{1} + ib_{1})}{(a_{3} + ib{3}) - (a_{2} + ib{2})}}{\frac{(a_{4} + ib_{4}) - (a_{1} + ib_{1})}{(a_{4} + ib_{4}) - (a_{2} + ib_{2})}}?

Does anyone have a hint for this problem?

Use the angle being the same to show the cross ratio is real. The cross ratio is invariant under Mobius transformations. Use ideas like that rather than trying to mess around with components.
 
I think this is a question about Mobius maps. I say this because
\phi(z) = \frac{z - z_1}{z - z_2}
is a Mobius map, and one of the properties of Mobius maps is that they map straight lines and circles to straight lines and circles. Now
\phi^{-1}(z) = \frac{zz_2 - z_1}{z - 1}
maps the points 0, \infty, (z_3 - z_1)/(z_3 - z_2) and (z_4 - z_1)/(z_4 - z_2) to the points z_1, z_2, z_3, z_4 respectively. Now if
<br /> \arg \left( \frac{z_3 - z_1}{z_3 - z_2} \right) = \arg \left( \frac{z_4 - z_1}{z_4 - z_2} \right)<br />
then the points 0, \infty, (z_3 - z_1)/(z_3 - z_2) and (z_4 - z_1)/(z_4 - z_2) lie on a straight line, so their images lie on a straight line or a circle.

Conversely, if z_1, z_2, z_3 and z_4 lie on a straight line or a circle, then so do 0, \infty, (z_3 - z_1)/(z_3 - z_2) and (z_4 - z_1)/(z_4 - z_2). Since \infty is in that set, it must be a straight line (so that the arguments of (z_3 - z_1)/(z_3 - z_2) and (z_4 - z_1)/(z_4 - z_2) are equal or differ by \pi).
 
There's an even simpler argument if you've already proven that given three distinct points there is some mobius transformation such that f(z1)=1, f(z2)=0 and f(z3)=∞. Then you don't really have to worry about the details of what the formula for f even is. Just use that the cross ratio is real.
 
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Thank you guys soooooooooo much!
 

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