Fourier’s Law Of Heat Conduction (Window Pane)

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The discussion revolves around applying Fourier’s Law of Heat Conduction to a scenario involving two glass panes and an air gap, focusing on the temperature gradient and heat flux across these materials.

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  • Participants explore how to account for the air gap in the heat conduction equation, questioning whether it should be omitted or included in the calculations. There are discussions about calculating temperature gradients for each medium and how to express these in terms of heat flux.

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Some participants have attempted to write expressions for heat conduction across the glass and air, while others are clarifying the use of constants and units. There is ongoing exploration of the implications of their calculations, particularly regarding temperature differentials and the role of the air gap.

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Participants note the importance of knowing the outside temperature and the potential for varying interpretations of the temperature differences across the materials. There is mention of specific constants for air and the dimensions involved in the calculations.

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Homework Statement
The room has double glazing windows. Each window has a dimension of 100cmx30cm and is constructed by sandwiching a 3mm air gap between the two glass panels. Calculate the power required to maintain the temperature of the room at 27 degrees.
Relevant Equations
q = Q/A = -kdT/dx
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In this case with a presence of the airgap, what should I do with the equation that is provided to be? Must the temperature gradient be caculated spearately (glass+air+glass) ? My tutor provided the hint that the heat flux should be constant for the windows, so in this case should I just omit the air? If so, why?
Thanks.
 
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No, the air plays a role. If you are familiar with electric circuits, think of it as the 2 window panes as medium-sized resistors and the air gap is a very large resistor. These are all in series. The same current flows through all 3 components. So the heat flow from the inside of the room to the outside world will be the same as the heat flow through the first pane, which is the same as the flow through the air and the outer pane, once in steady-state.
 
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So if I count in the air too, how would I exactly calculate kdT/dx for the 3 mediums? Do I calculate one by one?
For example,
Glass 1- (1.3)27/3mm?
Air- (1.3)27/3mm?
Glass 2- (1.3)27/3mm?
 
What can you say about the temperature differential in the first glass compared to the 2nd glass, and why?

And which constant should you be using for air? Also, look at the dimensions (units) in the constant.
 
Also, what is the 27 degree difference across? How much does each element have across it?
 
See if you can sketch a graph of the temperature from left to right as you cross each medium.
 
You will need to know the temperature outside. If you have 27 degrees outside as well the power is zero. So the answer depends on outside temperature.
 
nasu said:
You will need to know the temperature outside. If you have 27 degrees outside as well the power is zero. So the answer depends on outside temperature.
The diagram shows 0 C outside.
 
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scottdave said:
Also, what is the 27 degree difference across? How much does each element have across it?
Is it okay to say each has 9 degrees ?
scottdave said:
What can you say about the temperature differential in the first glass compared to the 2nd glass, and why?

And which constant should you be using for air? Also, look at the dimensions (units) in the constant.
The temperature difference is 18 degrees? Not exactly sure. I should be using the constant given in the table for air, 0.025?
 
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No. Using 9 degrees is incorrect. Let the two unknown interface temperatures be T1 and T2. In terms of these temperatures, please write down the heat conduction equation for each of the three layers separately.
 
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Alright, let me try this:
For:
Glass 1- (1.3)27-T1/3mm?
Air- (0.025)T1-T2/3mm?
Glass 2- (1.3)T2-0/3mm?
 
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jisbon said:
Alright, let me try this:
For:
Glass 1- (1.3)27-T1/3mm?
Air- (0.025)T1-T2/3mm?
Glass 2- (1.3)T2-0/3mm?
Make sure you are using the right units. And of course mind the parentheses.
 
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jisbon said:
Alright, let me try this:
For:
Glass 1- (1.3)27-T1/3mm?
Air- (0.025)T1-T2/3mm?
Glass 2- (1.3)T2-0/3mm?
This is good. I'm going to re-write your equations a little better. First of all, they're not equations. They are just expressions. Each expression is equal to the heat flux Q through the layers. So here is my version of what you wrote:

$$Q=\frac{k_1}{\delta_1}(27-T_1)$$
$$Q=\frac{k_2}{\delta_2}(T_1-T_2)$$
$$Q=\frac{k_3}{\delta_3}(T_2-0)$$

If this is OK with you, then please next solve each of these equations algebraically for each of the temperature differences in terms of Q, k, and ##\delta## for each layer. What do you get?
 
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Hi there, sorry for the late reply.
I've solved these equations and got T2 to be 50/9K,which is theoretically impossible. Any ideas why?
 
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jisbon said:
Hi there, sorry for the late reply.
I've solved these equations and got T2 to be 50/9K,which is theoretically impossible. Any ideas why?
Show us what you did.
 
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Chestermiller said:
Show us what you did.
##Q=1.3\left( \dfrac {300-T_{1}}{3\times 10^{-3}}\right) = 0.025\left( \dfrac {T_{1}-T_{2}}{3\times 10^{-3}}\right) = 1.3\left( \dfrac {T_{2}}{3\times 10^{-3}}\right) ##
Solving these equations,
##T_{1}=\dfrac {T_{2}+15600}{53} ##
##T_{1}=50/9K##
 
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jisbon said:
##Q=1.3\left( \dfrac {300-T_{1}}{3\times 10^{-3}}\right) = 0.025\left( \dfrac {T_{1}-T_{2}}{3\times 10^{-3}}\right) = 1.3\left( \dfrac {T_{2}}{3\times 10^{-3}}\right) ##
The third equality should be T2-273, or the first equality should be 27-T!
 
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Chestermiller said:
The third equality should be T2-273, or the first equality should be 27-T!
:dademyday:
But seriously, thanks for the help. Careless :/
Found T2 to be 0.5 degrees celsius and T1 to be 26.5 degrees
 

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