Frames of reference problem help(grade 12)

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the velocity of a boat in a current, specifically analyzing the vectors involved in the boat's movement and the current's influence. The subject area is vector addition within the context of physics, particularly in kinematics.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the necessity of adding vectors in different directions, suggesting methods to resolve the components into horizontal and vertical parts. There is mention of using trigonometric principles to find the resultant vector and its direction.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the vector addition, including sketching diagrams and using trigonometric laws. There is an ongoing exchange about the correctness of the diagrams and calculations, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is an emphasis on visual representation of the vectors involved.

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Homework Statement


A boat goes at 7.78 m/s [37 degrees west of south] in a current of 2.41 m/s [5 degrees north of west]. Find the velocity compared to the bottom.


Homework Equations


I think we use this: Vf2 = Vi2 + 2a x delta d


The Attempt at a Solution



I drew a diagram but don't know how to post it here...
 
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You must add the two vectors. They are in different directions, so it is a bit complicated. One method is to find the horizontal (East/west) and the vertical (north/south) components of each vector. Then add the horiz and vertical vectors separately. Sketch these two vectors head-to-tail to add them. You'll see that you need to find the hypotenuse to get the total and use some trig to find the direction.

An alternate method is to sketch the original vectors head-to-tail, then draw a line from beginning to end - the "resultant" or total of the other two vectors. This makes a triangle and you can solve for the resultant side using both the law of sines and the law of cosines.

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AWESOME! I know how to do that. I did a lot of those where you add the x and y components to get the resultant displacement or velocity. And yes my diagram is a head-to-tail diagram. Ill do it that way. So the velocity I get will be the velocity compared to the bottom? I'll post my final answer can you check please?

And thanks for the fast reply :biggrin: I'll be visiting here quite often :biggrin:
 
this is how I did it...is this right?

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Take another look at your first diagram. It would be a good idea to show the x and y components on there. Both of the x components are in the same direction (left) so you get 2.4 + 4.68 = 7.08 to the left. You may wish to call this -7.08.
In the y direction, the 6.21 is down and the 0.21 up, so you get a total of 6.0 down.
 

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