How Do You Balance Forces in a Bicycle Free Body Diagram?

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The discussion revolves around balancing forces in a free body diagram (FBD) of a bicycle, particularly focusing on the pedal and its associated components while in equilibrium. Participants are exploring the implications of an 800N force applied to the pedal and how it interacts with other forces in the system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to identify the relevant components of the bicycle system, questioning the terminology used for the pedal assembly and the forces acting on it. There is discussion about whether the opposing force to balance the 800N is related to torque or simply an opposing force on the pedal.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing clarifications on terminology and the mechanics involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider torque in the equilibrium of forces, and there is an ongoing exploration of the relevance of various components in the FBD.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through potential misunderstandings of bicycle mechanics and terminology, with some suggesting that certain components may not be relevant to the current part of the problem. The focus is on ensuring clarity in the definitions and roles of forces in the system.

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Homework Statement


Bicycle with a rider applying weight to on pedal. Draw as free bodies in equilibrium. There are different situations.

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Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


So I am working on part a).
1. I believe it is only referring to just the pedal, chain, and the two smaller circles of the (sprocket??).
2. Assuming that is correct to balance the 800N there would need to be an opposing force, is this the torque that is created on the smaller rear circle or is it just as simple as an opposing force in the left side of the pedal?
 
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"Pedal, crank and pedal sprocket assembly" aren't standard bicycle terminology. For clarity it should be pedal, crank and chainring. The pedal is where the 800N is applied at the end of the 160mm crank arm opposite its attachment to the 100mm radius chainring. The 800N force is resisted by the resultant tension force in the top/power run of chain.

The smaller circle at the left end of the top chain is the "cog(wheel/set)" where the top chain tension force times the cog radius creates the torque moment on the rear wheel.

The bottom return run of chain is slack.
 
ultra york said:

Homework Statement


Bicycle with a rider applying weight to on pedal. Draw as free bodies in equilibrium. There are different situations.

Homework Equations


N/A

The Attempt at a Solution


So I am working on part a).
1. I believe it is only referring to just the pedal, chain, and the two smaller circles of the (sprocket??).
2. Assuming that is correct to balance the 800N there would need to be an opposing force, is this the torque that is created on the smaller rear circle or is it just as simple as an opposing force in the left side of the pedal?

Hello, and welcome to the Forum, ultra york!

Since the system is in equilibrium, all forces and torques must be equal to zero.
So to begin with, you should list, under "Relevant equations", the equation for torque.

It looks to me as though the 800 N force on the pedal is going to create a clockwise torque around the axis of the "pedal sprocket assembly", so you will have to figure out a force at the perimeter of the sprocket that produces a counter-clockwise torque of equal magnitude.
 
Since bicycles are a bit weird, I've taken the liberty of drawing the FBD for you.
You can effectively ignore all aspects of the chain, except for the "point of interest".

pf.2015.01.10.1042.bicycle.fbd.part.a.png


So to more fully answer your questions, forget about the smaller rear circle/sprocket/cog for now.
Until you get to part b, it's irrelevant.
 

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