Free fall acceleration concept question

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The problem involves a student throwing keys vertically upward to a sister in a window 4 meters above, with the keys being caught 1.5 seconds later. The discussion centers around the initial velocity of the keys and their velocity just before being caught, raising questions about the motion of the keys during their flight.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial velocity calculated and the implications of a negative velocity just before the keys are caught. There is confusion about the motion of the keys, particularly regarding the timing of reaching maximum height and the subsequent downward motion.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively questioning the assumptions made about the motion of the keys, particularly concerning the timing of reaching the apex and the implications of the calculated velocities. There is no explicit consensus, but several lines of reasoning are being explored regarding the keys' trajectory and the timing of events.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted discrepancy between the time calculated to reach maximum height and the total time of flight given in the problem, which raises questions about the setup and assumptions of the scenario.

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Homework Statement



A student throws a set of keys vertically upward to her sorority sister in a window 4m above. The keys are caught 1.5s later by the sister's outstretched hands. (a) With what initial velocity were the keys thrown? (b) What was the velocity of the keys just before they were caught?

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(a) 10m/s
(b) -4.68 m/s

I know how to get the solutions by using the constant acceleration formulas, but my question is with (b). If the velocity is negative, that means the keys have to be moving DOWN, because maximum height achieved by the key would be when the velocity is 0. So I'm very confused on this point. How could the key still be going up if its already negative velocity? Someone please point out where my thought process went wrong.
 
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Would would happen if she didn't catch the keys on the way up?
 
if she didn't catch the keys it would fall down. but i don't get it because that's supposed to happen when velocity is zero, and this -4.68m/s velocity means theoretically the sister shouldn't even be able to touch the key since it would be falling down earlier.
 
To put it in another way, how long does it take the keys to reach their highest point, ( you can easily get this from your answer to part (a) )
 
v= v0+at

=> 0 = 10 + (-9.8)t

t = 1.02 s

It takes 1.02s for the key to reach its apex. Wow this contradicts the 1.5seconds given by the problem. What's going on!?
 
If the keys are thrown with an intial velocity approx 10m/s, at what height are they after 1s? And if the woman catches them at a height 4m at t=1.5, then where is the keys headed?
 
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xzibition8612 said:
v= v0+at

=> 0 = 10 + (-9.8)t

t = 1.02 s

It takes 1.02s for the key to reach its apex. Wow this contradicts the 1.5seconds given by the problem. What's going on!?

So, what happens to the keys after this?
 

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