Free Fall Homework: Distance Between Window & Building

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The problem involves a brick falling from the top of a building and passing a 2.0 m tall window in a specified time of 0.20 seconds. Participants are tasked with determining the distance between the top of the window and the top of the building, utilizing kinematic equations related to free fall.

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  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations, particularly questioning the application of average velocity and the correct interpretation of variables in the equations. Some suggest starting with equations that incorporate time, while others explore relationships between initial and final velocities.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem, with some participants providing guidance on how to relate the velocities at different points. Several interpretations of the calculations are being examined, and while some participants express confusion about specific values, constructive dialogue continues.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the assumptions behind the kinematic equations being used, particularly regarding the nature of the velocities and the effects of gravity on the falling brick.

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Homework Statement



A brick falls from the top of a building and drops past a 2.0 m tall window in 0.20 s. Determine the distance between the top of this window and the top of the building.

Homework Equations



v^2 = (v initial)^2 + 2ax

The Attempt at a Solution



10 ^2 = 2(9.8)x

x= 5.102 m


Not at all sure if I used this formula correctly. Seems like the distance is too far.
 
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veronicak5678 said:

Homework Statement



A brick falls from the top of a building and drops past a 2.0 m tall window in 0.20 s. Determine the distance between the top of this window and the top of the building.

Homework Equations



v^2 = (v initial)^2 + 2ax

The Attempt at a Solution



10 ^2 = 2(9.8)x

x= 5.102 mNot at all sure if I used this formula correctly. Seems like the distance is too far.

Unfortunately, you can't just use the average Velocity like that.

[tex]v^2 = v_0^2 + 2 a \Delta x[/tex]

Because in this equation the

[tex]v^2 - v_0^2[/tex]

is not the square of the average velocity. It is the difference in the squares of the velocities.

Perhaps you should start from the

[tex]v = v_0 + a t[/tex]

[tex]v_{bottom} = v_{top} + (9.8)*(.2)[/tex]
 
From the question you were given a time, so it is safe to assume you need a kinematic equation with time in it. You also need one with distance and you know acceleration is that of gravity. It is always useful to review what quantities you are given to see what is best to use.
 
So using v = v initial + at, I get 19.6 m/s. Do you mean that is the velocity at the bottom of the window?
 
veronicak5678 said:
So using v = v initial + at, I get 19.6 m/s. Do you mean that is the velocity at the bottom of the window?

Yes I did mean V at the bottom of the window.

But what I was suggesting was that you can exploit the relationship between Vtop and Vbottom to solve the other equations.

By substituting

[tex]v_{bottom} = v_{top} + a* t[/tex]

into

[tex]v_{bottom}^2 - v_{top}^2 = 2 a \Delta x[/tex]

That way you can solve for an actual Vtop and then the rest is easy.
 
OK. I used (18.57)^2 = 2(9.8) x to get x= 17.593 m. So the distance from the top of the building to the window top is 17.59 m.
 
Hi veronicak5678,

veronicak5678 said:
OK. I used (18.57)^2 = 2(9.8) x to get x= 17.593 m. So the distance from the top of the building to the window top is 17.59 m.

How did you get the speed of 18.57 m/s? That does not look right to me.
 
veronicak5678 said:
OK. I used (18.57)^2 = 2(9.8) x to get x= 17.593 m. So the distance from the top of the building to the window top is 17.59 m.

Sorry, I don't get that at all.

I used Vbottom = Vtop +(9.8)(.2) = Vtop + 1.96

Substituting then into

[tex]v_{bottom}^2 - v_{top}^2 = 2 a \Delta x[/tex]

[tex](v_{top} + 1.96)^2 - v_{top}^2 = 2 (9.8) (2)[/tex]

The v2 cancels and you get a value for Vtop. Then you can use the same formula again but this time you solve for x which is your answer.
 
I see what you mean. I made a silly math mistake in a hurry. Thanks for helping!
 

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