Free Fall or What? Weight Change Explained

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of apparent weight changes experienced in an elevator during acceleration and deceleration. Participants explore the physics behind these changes, referencing concepts such as inertia, Newton's laws, and potential energy.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why weight appears greater in an upward-moving lift compared to a stationary one, suggesting it relates to inertia and pressure on the scale during acceleration.
  • Another participant confirms that during upward acceleration, apparent weight increases, while during downward acceleration, it decreases, indicating that these changes only occur during acceleration phases.
  • A participant notes that once a constant speed is reached, apparent weight returns to normal, excluding relativistic effects.
  • One participant references the equation for potential energy (E=mgh) but does not elaborate on its relevance to the discussion.
  • A clarification is made regarding the timing of weight changes, emphasizing that they only happen during acceleration, countering a potential misunderstanding from the original post.
  • Another participant discusses the forces at play, invoking Newton's third law to explain how the forces acting on the body change during the lift's movement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that apparent weight changes occur during acceleration and deceleration phases of the elevator. However, there are nuances in how these changes are described and understood, indicating that some aspects of the discussion remain contested.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the importance of distinguishing between acceleration and constant speed, suggesting that misunderstandings may arise from the phrasing of the original question. The discussion does not resolve the implications of potential energy in this context.

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free fall or what??!?

I would like to know,
if we are on a lift going upwards, and we happen to be standing on a weighing machine, why does our the value appears more than when we just weigh in the stationary lift??
 
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That's just the inertia of your body causing it to stay put for as long as possible. Both it, and the top of the scale itself, thus apply pressure to the bottom of the scale. Note that this occurs only during the acceleration phase of the elevator travel. By the same token, when it decelerates for the next stop, your apparent weight will drop.
 
Then what if the lift is just accelerating downwards??Won't our apparent weight will also be less?
 
For sure. As long as there's a positive acceleration, your weight will increase. With negative acceleration, it will decrease. Once a constant speed is reached in either direction, your weight will be normal (excluding relativistic effects which don't apply at that speed or within your own reference frame).
 
E=mgh Potential Energy
 
Clarification: the change in weight only occurs during the acceleration. The wording in the OP implies it occurs all the time when going up.
 
F = ma.. in equilibrium,our body's weight is forcing downward. and there is a reaction force(same value and upward)= Newton's third law.when the lift is moving upward, the force acting upward increases. and that force also has a reaction force acting downward. this reaction force will be add to our weight value...
 

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