Freezing water in an unexpandable container?

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When water freezes in a strong, unexpandable container, it generates significant pressure to maintain its original volume. This results in a compressed solid form of ice, which may differ from typical ice due to the high pressure conditions. The specific type of ice formed depends on the temperature and pressure, as indicated by the complex phase diagram of water ice. The freezing point of water can be lowered under these conditions, but the exact amount varies based on the pressure applied.

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If you did had a container that was strong enough to resist the expansive forces generated as the water in it freezes, what would happen? (assuming the container is filled completely with water)

Thanks for any answers in advance, and I hope this post is in the correct place, if not, then sorry!
 
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Welcome to Physics Forums leakeg!

If the container really is strong enough, the frozen water would be under a tremendous amount of pressure in order to maintain its original volume.
 
thanks for your reply!

so you're saying the water would freeze? so we would have a compressed solid? or would the ice be a different form of ice? would it freeze at a colder temperature?

is this even possible in the real world?

wow that was a lot of questions haha.
 
There is something like 7 different types of water ice (the phase diagram of water ice is VERY complicated), which form it freezes into would depend on the temperature and pressure.
 
alright, cheers!

how much do you guys think it would lower the freezing point by?
 

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