Frequency of Resultant Periodic Function from Sum of Three Harmonic Functions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the frequency of a resultant periodic function formed by the sum of three harmonic functions with frequencies p, 2p, and 3p. Participants explore both graphical and mathematical approaches to find the resultant frequency.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests sketching the three sinusoids and adding them graphically to observe the period of the resultant function.
  • Another participant mentions using trigonometric identities to combine the sine functions, specifically referencing the identity for the sum of two sine functions.
  • A participant expresses difficulty in proceeding with the mathematical approach due to a lack of known limits and seeks further guidance.
  • There is a claim that the resultant frequency is p, but the reasoning behind this conclusion is not fully detailed.
  • One participant proposes setting one frequency as a multiple of another (B=2A) to simplify the summation process.
  • Another participant emphasizes the repetitive nature of periodic waveforms, suggesting that understanding one cycle is sufficient to determine the overall behavior.
  • A later reply indicates that sinusoids with frequencies that are integer multiples of a base frequency (f) yield a net frequency of f when added together, concluding that the final net frequency is p.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion includes multiple competing views on how to approach the problem, with no consensus reached on the method or reasoning for determining the resultant frequency.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the mathematical steps and the application of trigonometric identities. There are also limitations in the graphical approach due to unknown limits.

Who May Find This Useful

Students and individuals interested in harmonic functions, trigonometric identities, and the behavior of periodic waveforms may find this discussion relevant.

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Homework Statement



three harmonic function of frequency p, 2p ,3p were added together. what is the frequency of resultant periodic function?

Homework Equations


X=Asin(wt)
A-amplitude w-frequency
X=X1+X2+X3

The Attempt at a Solution


need a hint ..
 
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You could try sketching the 3 sinusoids, and then adding them graphically. Sum 2 first, then to that add the third, and look for the period of the resultant.

But I think you should be able to do this mathematically. Do you have an equation from trigonometry:
sin A + sin B = ...
 
yes sir but I don't hv known limits in Grapically ..only freq . so by trignometricaL relation i tried it( as u said) ..with sin A+sinB=(1/2)*sin((1/2)(A+b))*Cos((1/2)(A-B)). . i get in the form sin*cos+Sin(C)
AND no use of sin A*cosB.. how to proceed here
 
resultant frequency X=p. Any IDEA how they got it
 
praveenpandiyan said:
so by trignometricaL relation i tried it( as u said) ..with sin A+sinB=(1/2)*sin((1/2)(A+b))*Cos((1/2)(A-B))
now let B=2A when you are summing a frequency with its double frequency
 
praveenpandiyan said:
yes sir but I don't hv known limits in Grapically ..only freq
So, you plot for just a few cycles. Periodic waveforms are repetitive, what happens during one period also happens during the next period, so you just need to discover the period, and shape of waveform for one cycle.
 
thanks Nas .. i got the solution...sinusoids having frequencies in integer multiple of (f) have net freq (f) when addded together..when i consider by t=1/f ..its pretty clear final net freq occur only after first signal ..so answer is P
 

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