Frequency when tension is increased

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The problem involves two strings vibrating at a frequency of 228.0 Hz, with one string's tension increased, resulting in the perception of beats. Participants are exploring the relationship between tension and frequency, particularly in the context of beats per second.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the correlation between tension and frequency, questioning how to interpret the beats per second in relation to frequency changes. There is also confusion regarding the mathematical rearrangement of equations related to frequency and beats.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the nature of beats and the implications of increased tension on frequency. Some participants have reached conclusions about the relationship between frequencies but are still questioning the assumptions regarding which frequency to use in calculations.

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Participants are navigating the implications of tension changes on frequency, with specific attention to the conditions of the problem and the mathematical relationships involved. There is an emphasis on understanding the nature of beats and the necessary conditions for determining frequency changes.

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Homework Statement



Two strings are adjusted to vibrate at exactly 228.0 Hz. Then the tension in one string is increased slightly. Afterward, 3.00 beats per second are heard when the strings vibrate at the same time. What is the new frequency of the string that was tightened?


Homework Equations



F=\frac{1}{2L} \sqrt{\frac{T}{\mu}}

The Attempt at a Solution



so i know that there is direct correlation between Tension and frequency so if tension increases then so does frequency but I'm confused abt the beats per second thing (i thought that was another way of saying Hz).. and also i have no idea how to mathematically start solving this question..pls. help
 
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With beats, there are 2 possible solutions. Tension is increased so they want the answer higher than the reference tone.

When the frequencies of 2 nearly identical tones are beating, ...

See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_(acoustics )
 
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i got the answer but i was wondering something when i tried to rearrange the equation
fbeats= lf1-f2l the lines to show magnitude only when i tried to rearrange it for f2 i got fbeats-f1 which gave me a negative answer but when i simply added the f1 to fbeats i got the right answer ..did i do something wrong when isolating for f2??
 
Not really, as far as I am concerned, so long as you understand how the equation is put together.

Since for positive numbers |A - B| = |B - A|

You know the difference is 3 from the problem.

You know the original reference 228 is less than the increased tension brother.

So what you are dealing with is F - 228 = 3 right?
 
but how can we determine which frequency to use by just looking @ the question?? by this i mean how do we know that the frequency we are trying to find is larger or smaller than the frequency given??
 
Then the tension in one string is increased slightly.

The frequency then will necessarily be greater.
 
so if the tension had been reduced then the frequency would be less than the original one .. correct?
 
brunettegurl said:
so if the tension had been reduced then the frequency would be less than the original one .. correct?

Exactly.
 

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