Frictional force acting on mass

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The problem involves a 40 kg block sliding down a rough incline at an angle of 35 degrees with constant velocity, leading to a discussion about the frictional force acting on the block.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the components of gravitational force acting on the block and question how to proceed without acceleration. There is confusion regarding the relationship between the forces acting along the incline and the implications of constant velocity.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the implications of Newton's first law and discussing the balance of forces along the incline. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the gravitational force component and the frictional force, but no consensus has been reached on the final interpretation.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the lack of acceleration due to the constant velocity of the block, which raises questions about the net forces acting on it. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the correct application of Newton's laws in this context.

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Homework Statement


A 40 kg block slides down arough incline of 35 degrees with a constant velocity. Find the frictional force acting on the block.


Homework Equations


Fgx = Fg sin theta
Fgy = Fg cos theta
Fg = mg

The Attempt at a Solution


Well I drew a diagram and solved for my Fgx component and my Fgy component:

Fgx = 40(9.8)sin35 = 224.8 N
Fgy = 40(9.8)cos35 = 321.1 N

Now what do I do? Take the sum of Fx ? Won't that just be 224.8 N ? That doesn't sound correct I'm confused. Am I doing something wrong?
 
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But I can't take the sum of Fx because I don't have an acceleration. I'm stuck :(
 
There is no acceleration along the incline, the acceleration is zero along the incline when the block is moving at constant velocity along the incline. Looks like Newton 1 applies.
 
That's what I was thinking, but if the a = 0 because it's at a constant velocity wouldn't that just mean the sum of my Fx would be 224.8 N ? So in this case Fx = fs ?Is this correct?
 
demonslayer42 said:
That's what I was thinking, but if the a = 0 because it's at a constant velocity wouldn't that just mean the sum of my Fx would be 224.8 N ?
the sum of your Forces in x direction (parallel to incline) would be 0 (no net force per Newton 1)!
So in this case Fx = fs ?Is this correct?
It's sum of forces (also called F_net) along incline = 0. Thus

mgsin theta (which is the component of the gravity force acting down the plane) - F_k (which is the kinetic friction force acting up the plane) = 0.

224.8 - F_k =0

F_k = 224.8 N acting up the incline and parallel to it.

Which i think it what you meant.
 
Yes, you are right that's what I meant. O.k., I think I'm starting to get the hang of this now thank you.
 

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