Frobenius theorem for differential one forms

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The discussion revolves around the Frobenius theorem for differential 1-forms, specifically the equivalence of the condition \(d\omega = \omega \wedge \alpha\) to the existence of smooth maps \(f\) and \(g\) such that \(\omega = fdg\). Participants explore the implications of the theorem, its algebraic proofs, and the integrability of distributions on smooth manifolds.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses doubts about the equivalence of the Frobenius condition and the existence of smooth maps, noting that the implication \(d\omega = \omega \wedge \alpha \Rightarrow \omega = fdg\) is not straightforward and references a counterexample.
  • Another participant clarifies that the Frobenius condition implies the integrability of an \(n-1\) dimensional smooth distribution, suggesting that there exist integral immersed submanifolds for each point in the manifold.
  • A later reply asserts that the leaves of the foliation can be represented as level sets of a smooth map \(t\), leading to the conclusion that \(\omega\) can be expressed as \(\omega = fdt\) for some smooth functions \(f\) and \(t\).
  • Some participants reference Lee's book on the Global Frobenius theorem to support their claims about the existence of foliation and integral submanifolds.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the applicability of the Frobenius theorem, suggesting that the problem may be more complex than it appears.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the implications of the Frobenius theorem, with some supporting its application and others questioning its relevance or clarity in the context of the problem presented.

Contextual Notes

There are references to specific texts and counterexamples that highlight the complexity and nuances of the theorem's implications, but no resolutions to these points are provided.

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Frobenius theorem for differential one forms - equivalence of conditions
Hi, starting from this old PF thread I've some doubts about the Frobenius condition for a differential 1-form ##\omega##, namely that ##d\omega = \omega \wedge \alpha## is actually equivalent to the existence of smooth maps ##f## and ##g## such that ##\omega = fdg##.

I found this About Frobenius's theorem for differential forms where the OP asks for an "algebraic" proof of the equivalence ##d\omega = \omega \wedge \alpha \Leftrightarrow\omega = f dg##. The implication ##\Leftarrow## is algebraically clear, just take ##\alpha = - df/f##.

The other implication ##\Rightarrow## seems to be, instead, not algebraically straightforward (the fourth comment there shows a counterexample regarding the fact that the OP's proposal algebraic proof does not work).

Is basically this latter implication the actual content of Frobenius's theorem ? Thanks.
 
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Said in other terms: in the simple case of just 1-form ##\omega## defined on a smooth manifold ##M##, the Frobenius condition ##\omega \wedge d\omega= 0## (that is equivalent to the existence of a 1-form ##\alpha## such that ##d\omega = \omega \wedge \alpha##) tell us that the ##n-1## dimensional smooth distribution is integrable (i.e. there exist an integral immersed submanifold of ##M## for each point ##p \in M##).

The above does mean there exist a complete foliation of ##M## via such maximal connected immersed submanifolds (see also here Lec11).

My point is that such leaves of the foliation can be always given as level sets of a smooth map ##t## defined on the manifold ##M##. Then ##\omega## can be always "recovered" from such a map ##t## using another smooth map ##f## as ##\omega=fdt##.

Does it make sense ?
 
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Yes, it is Frobenius theorem.
 
I checked also Lee's book Theorem 19.12 (Global Frobenius theorem): the foliation via maximal connected integral submanifolds does exist. Therefore, I believe, in case of an ##n-1## smooth involutive distribution assigned as the kernel of a 1-form ##\omega##, such submanifolds can be given as the level sets of a smooth function/map ##t## defined on the entire manifold ##M##. Hence it seems to me ##\omega = fdt## for smooth functions/maps ##f## and ##t## globally defined on ##M##.
 
can't see how to use Frobenius theorem, I think this is just a hard exercise. you can search in John lee, gtm218 for the true meaning of Frobenius theorem
 
graphking said:
you can search in John lee, gtm218 for the true meaning of Frobenius theorem
Yes, I've seen it on Jon Lee's Introduction on smooth manifolds.
 
cianfa72 said:
Yes, I've seen it on Jon Lee's Introduction on smooth manifolds.
so how to use? can't see they are relevant
 

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