Fully developed flow, Reynolds number

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The discussion revolves around determining the length of a tube required for fully developed flow in a fluid dynamics context, specifically using Reynolds number and various flow rates of water and a glycerol-water mixture. Participants explore the calculations involved in estimating entrance lengths and the implications of flow characteristics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to calculate the entrance length for fully developed flow in a tube, providing flow rates and fluid properties.
  • Another participant references a source that provides an equation for estimating hydrodynamic entrance length for laminar flow.
  • Multiple participants express confusion about the equations and calculations presented, requesting clarification on specific parts.
  • One participant shares their calculated entrance lengths based on provided equations and flow rates, questioning the correctness of their results.
  • Reynolds numbers for various flow rates are calculated and shared, with one participant expressing concern over potential conversion or arithmetic errors.
  • A later participant suggests calculating entrance lengths using both equations provided and selecting the larger value for a mixture of glycerol and water.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correctness of the calculations, with some expressing confidence in the results while others remain uncertain about potential errors. The discussion includes multiple competing views on the application of the equations and the implications of the Reynolds numbers calculated.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific equations for calculating entrance lengths and Reynolds numbers, but there are unresolved questions regarding the accuracy of conversions and the application of these equations to different fluid mixtures.

rustyrockets
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Hi,
For my experiment I was asked to determine the length of the tube for a fully developed flow to occur ( Entrance length as shown in the attachment) , with the following flow parameters.
Flow rate : 1, 5, 15 lit/min
Fluid: Water
Tube Id: 1 inch.
My question How do I find out the length of the tube required to have a fully developed flow at its end. A valve is connected to the end, so the flow should be fully developed at the end when it hits the valve. The length of the tube is unknown. How would one use reynolds number to calculate this when I have both the length and the reynolds number not known.

Thanks & Regards
 

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Bird, Stewart, and Lightfoot, Transport Phenomena give an equation for estimating the hydrodynamic entrance length for laminar flow in a tube.

Chet
 
I did not understand it, can you please explain
 
rustyrockets said:
I did not understand it, can you please explain
Which part don't you understand? What was the equation they presented for calculating the entrance length?

Chet
 
I was asked to calculate the entrance length,
I have the parameters flow rate 1,5,15 lit/min
Hydraulic diameter 1inch
fluid: water
density of water 1000kg/m3
Absolute (dynamic) viscosity - μ - Ns/m2 = 0.000404
hydraulic diameter 1 inch=0.0254meters
using the equation Le/D= 0.06Re , Le/D= 4.4(Re)^(1/6)
I calculated the values and got them as 3.1m, 0.5m, 0.6m respectively for their flowrates. Do you think this is correct?
 
rustyrockets said:
I was asked to calculate the entrance length,
I have the parameters flow rate 1,5,15 lit/min
Hydraulic diameter 1inch
fluid: water
using the equation Le/D= 0.06Re , Le/D= 4.4(Re)^(1/6)
I calculated the values and got them as 3.1m, 0.5m, 0.6m respectively for their flowrates. Do you think this is correct?
Well now, this is more like it! I'm assuming that you did the arithmetic correctly. What were the values of the Re's that you obtained in each case, and which equation did you use in each case.

Chet
 
I was worried , if i made any conversion mistakes or any other arithmetic mistakes with formula i used.
 
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rustyrockets said:
I was worried , if i made any conversion mistakes or any other arithmetic mistakes with formula i used.
Well, since you used online software to do the calculations, it's hard to imagine how that would be possible. I urge you to do the calculations without resorting to the online software, to develop your skill at converting units.

Chet
 
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I have one more questiion, I am also using a mixture of Glycerol and water in ration of 40:60, I calculated the reynolds number for the similar flowrates and foound them to be 254,1268,3804 respectively

3804 is transient flow, how do i calculate the Le for that?
 
  • #12
Calculate it from both equations, and use whichever is larger.
 
  • #13
sounds perfect, thank you :)
 

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