Functions and Composition: Solving Equations with g and h

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The discussion revolves around solving equations involving functions g and h based on the given function f(x) = 2x. Participants clarify that g(f(x)) can be expressed as g(2x) = 2g(x)h(x), leading to the first equation. The second equation is h(2x) = h(x)^2 - g(x)^2. A hint suggests looking into trigonometric identities, which ultimately helps one participant solve the problem. The conversation highlights the challenge of integrating function h into the equations, but concludes with a realization that trigonometric functions provide a solution.
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I have a homework problem as follows:

Let f(x) = 2x, (-inf < x < inf). Can you think of functions g and h which satisfy the two equations g \circ f = 2gh and h \circ f = h^2 - g^2?

I know that g \circ f = g(f(x)), which then = g(2x) for the first question. I can't figure out how to work the h in there.

Help, please! Thank you.
 
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So you have g(2x)=2*g(x)*h(x) and h(2x)=h(x)^2-g(x)^2, right? I really can't think of any way to actually solve for g(x) and h(x). You should probably treat it as a guessing game. Have you ever seen formulas like that before? Hint: think of trig functions.
 
The problem I am having is more basic than that. I can't see how to work the h into the first equation. In other words, if I have g composed with f, how does the function h enter into it at all? Thank you.
 
tarheelborn said:
The problem I am having is more basic than that. I can't see how to work the h into the first equation. In other words, if I have g composed with f, how does the function h enter into it at all? Thank you.

You don't have to 'work it in' at all. You have g(f(x))=2*g(x)*h(x), right? Since f(x)=2x that's just g(2x)=g(x)*h(x). That's your first equation. There's not much else to do with it.
 
Dick said:
So you have g(2x)=2*g(x)*h(x) and h(2x)=h(x)^2-g(x)^2, right? I really can't think of any way to actually solve for g(x) and h(x). You should probably treat it as a guessing game. Have you ever seen formulas like that before? Hint: think of trig functions.

Pay attention to what dick said, he pretty much gave you the answer.
If you look at a table of trig identities, you will happen to come across 2 that look extremely similar to your problem.

Don't feel bad, I had this same about a week ago and it took me like 5 days to figure it out. And i was so mad because it was this simple. Oh well, that's how math is.[physics/math double major OLE MISS] HOTTY TODDY!
 
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Thank you both! Duh. The trig identities did it.
 
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