Functions and Composition: Solving Equations with g and h

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The discussion revolves around finding functions g and h that satisfy specific equations involving function composition with f(x) = 2x. The equations are g ∘ f = 2gh and h ∘ f = h² - g², prompting participants to explore the relationships between these functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the composition of functions and how to incorporate h into the equations. There is mention of treating the problem as a guessing game and considering trigonometric functions as potential solutions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the equations and suggested looking at trigonometric identities for potential solutions. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem, with no explicit consensus on a definitive approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion about how to integrate the function h into the composition with f, indicating a need for clarification on the relationships between the functions involved. There is also a reference to the challenge of solving the equations, highlighting the exploratory nature of the discussion.

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I have a homework problem as follows:

Let f(x) = 2x, (-inf < x < inf). Can you think of functions g and h which satisfy the two equations g \circ f = 2gh and h \circ f = h^2 - g^2?

I know that g \circ f = g(f(x)), which then = g(2x) for the first question. I can't figure out how to work the h in there.

Help, please! Thank you.
 
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So you have g(2x)=2*g(x)*h(x) and h(2x)=h(x)^2-g(x)^2, right? I really can't think of any way to actually solve for g(x) and h(x). You should probably treat it as a guessing game. Have you ever seen formulas like that before? Hint: think of trig functions.
 
The problem I am having is more basic than that. I can't see how to work the h into the first equation. In other words, if I have g composed with f, how does the function h enter into it at all? Thank you.
 
tarheelborn said:
The problem I am having is more basic than that. I can't see how to work the h into the first equation. In other words, if I have g composed with f, how does the function h enter into it at all? Thank you.

You don't have to 'work it in' at all. You have g(f(x))=2*g(x)*h(x), right? Since f(x)=2x that's just g(2x)=g(x)*h(x). That's your first equation. There's not much else to do with it.
 
Dick said:
So you have g(2x)=2*g(x)*h(x) and h(2x)=h(x)^2-g(x)^2, right? I really can't think of any way to actually solve for g(x) and h(x). You should probably treat it as a guessing game. Have you ever seen formulas like that before? Hint: think of trig functions.

Pay attention to what dick said, he pretty much gave you the answer.
If you look at a table of trig identities, you will happen to come across 2 that look extremely similar to your problem.

Don't feel bad, I had this same about a week ago and it took me like 5 days to figure it out. And i was so mad because it was this simple. Oh well, that's how math is.[physics/math double major OLE MISS] HOTTY TODDY!
 
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Thank you both! Duh. The trig identities did it.
 

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