Fundamentals of Lift: Differential Pressure & Wing Shape

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The discussion revolves around the fundamentals of lift in aerodynamics, specifically focusing on the role of differential pressure and wing shape. Participants explore various theories, including the Bernoulli principle and Newtonian mechanics, as well as practical implications in aviation and model aircraft design.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that lift is primarily generated by higher pressure at the bottom of the wing compared to the top, suggesting that this pressure differential results from the unique shape of the wing and the speed of airflow.
  • Others argue that while the Bernoulli effect contributes to lift, a significant portion is due to the downward deflection of air by the wing, which creates an upward reaction force according to Newton's third law.
  • A participant mentions that lift can be generated even without a curved upper surface, indicating that the pressure differential may not be as critical as commonly believed.
  • Another viewpoint emphasizes that lift occurs due to the acceleration of air downwards, with the angle of attack being a crucial factor, even for flat surfaces.
  • Some participants discuss the efficiency of gliders, noting that it is influenced by both airfoil shape and aspect ratio, with ongoing developments in glider design being highlighted.
  • A participant points out that the classic Bernoulli theorem relates to conservation of energy, suggesting that the interaction between the wing and air alters the kinetic energy of the air.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the mechanisms of lift, with no consensus reached on the primary factors contributing to lift generation. The discussion remains unresolved with various hypotheses presented.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on specific definitions of lift and pressure differentials, and the discussion includes unresolved mathematical and conceptual nuances regarding airflow and wing design.

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This is interesting stuff but I probably need to read a book with lost of pictures in order to fully understand the basics of this. Thanks for the introductions though.
 
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First:
The "effective angle of attack" concept.
This comes from the flat-plate approximation, i.e, finding that angle a flat-plate wing would have, in order to produce the same lift as the actual wing in question.

A better concept, more in tune with reality, would be the "angle of escape"-concept (which, of course for the flat plate is the same as the angle of attack).

That is, a downwards angle of escape is directly seen to be related to the downwards deflection of air (and a corresponding lift, as in a normal action-reaction pair of forces).

Secondly:
Let us look at the proper setting of forces, namely Newton's 2. law of motion.
What is the ACCELERATION most readily associated with the lift force?

To answer that, simply look at the streamlines about the wing foil, as seen in the wing's rest frame.

Consistent with Newton's 3.law, the "majority" of these streamlines bend DOWNWARDS, i.e, i.e, the air has experienced a downwards force, and hence, the wing an upwards force (the lift).

BEND downwards..what sort of motion does this imply that the air has experienced?
Answer:
The air has undergone a CURVILINEAR motion; it was at the beginning moving strictly horizontally, but has, by passing by the wing gained a vertical component.

But, curvilinear motion is first and foremost associated with CENTRIPETAL acceleration, NOT tangential acceleration!

Thus, the force component properly related to the centripetal acceleration is the force component NORMAL to a fluid particle's trajectory, NOT the force component along the fluid particle's trajectory!

But Bernoulli's equation is merely the integral of F=ma ALONG a stream line (i.e, in the stationary case along a particle trajectory)...

But from this, it follows that the force as given by the pressure difference along the trajectory is not the force we should focus on!

Rather, we should focus on force given by the pressure difference ACROSS the streamlines, rather than along them (Crocco's theorem).

This is what I've done previously somewhere.

In general, we can replace ideally the effective angle of attack, with the effective CURVATURES of the wing foil, which display the intimate connection between foil shape and centripetal acceleration.
It should be emphasized that tipping a wing will change its EFFECTIVE curvature, even though its geometrical curvature remains unchanged.


As a simple illustration, consider what is done in the low-veløocity take-off phase:
Flaps go down, so that air following the underside of the wing experiences a centripetal acceleration with its centre of curvature way below the wing.
But that typically means that the pressure AT the underside must be GREATER than along the ground.
At the beginning of the take-off phase, we can say that the pressure ABOVE the wing is roughly equal to the GROUND pressure, that is, we have set up a lift-yielding presssure difference across the wing.

Once the plane is in the air, these flaps are no longer needed, since a low-pressure zone has been established on the upper side of the wing.
 
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