Gas expansion at constant pressure

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The discussion revolves around the expansion of a monatomic ideal gas at constant pressure and subsequent adiabatic processes. The original poster presents a scenario involving 2 moles of gas, initially at 300 K and a volume of 0.02 m³, which expands to double the volume before returning to the initial temperature of 300 K.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the final volume, heat supplied, and change in internal energy, while expressing uncertainty about the heat transfer during the process. Some participants question how to achieve gas expansion at constant pressure and suggest applying heat to raise the temperature.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the relationship between heat transfer and temperature change, with some guidance provided regarding specific heat capacity at constant pressure. There is an ongoing examination of the relevant equations and concepts without a clear consensus on the heat supplied to the system.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of specific heat capacity values in the problem statement, which participants are addressing in their discussion.

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Homework Statement


2 moles of gas at 300 K at 0.02 m3 is expanded to twice the original volume at constant pressure, and then adiabatically until T = 300 K again.

assume monatomic gas. assume ideal.

determine the final volume

determine the heat supplied to the overall process

determine change in internal energy

Homework Equations


PV = nRT
TV^{\gamma-1} = TV^{\gamma-1}

The Attempt at a Solution


State 1
n = 2
V = 0.02
R = 8.31
T = 300

P = 249.3 kPa

State 2
P = 249.3
V = 0.04

T = 600 K

State 3
T = 300
monatomic therefore \gamma=5/3

V = 0.061

so final volume is 0.061 m3

I am struggling to find the "heat supplied" to the system. Since from state 2 to 3 the process is adiabatic, Q = 0.

So the only heat transfer occur from state 1 to 2.

Would it just be equal to the work?
so Q = W = P(V2-V1) = 249300 x 0.02 = 5 kJ?

and so the change in internal energy must also be be 5 kJ?

thank you in advance.
 
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How can you make the gas expand at constant pressure?

ehild
 
Hi ehild

by applying heat and raising its temperature.

However, I don't have/know an equation that equates total heating applied (Q) to the raise in temperature..
 
What about specific heat capacity at constant pressure?

ehild
 
specific heat, c would equal du/dT

so I guess the heat supplied, q, would equal change in u = c dT

but c is not given in the question.
 
It is 2 moles of mono-atomic ideal gas. Look after cp.

ehild
 

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