Gauge fixing and gauge transformations

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of making a gauge transformation after fixing a particular gauge in a gauge invariant theory. The paper being referred to applies this procedure in the context of brane origins of Galilean invariance of galileons. It is mentioned that gaugefixing often does not completely fix the gauge and one should check if the next gauge transformation leaves the gauge choice invariant. The conversation also touches upon the two different kinds of gauge transformations for branes - Poincare in the target spacetime and gct's on the worldvolume. It is explained that one can perform a compensating worldsheet transformation to bring back the gauge choice after making a gauge transformation that takes one out of the gauge choice for the embedding coordinate
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If a theory is gauge invariant and one chooses to fix a particular gauge, having done this is it then possible to make a gauge transformation from this chosen gauge to another gauge, or have we already "spent" the gauge symmetry?
Apologies if this is a really basic question, but I've got myself a bit confused in a particular example in reading a paper on the brane origins of Galilean invariance of galileons http://arxiv.org/pdf/1008.1305v2.pdf (starting on page 9). They carry out this procedure of fixing a particular gauge and then subsequently making a gauge transformation, but I'm slightly confused as to why they can do this?
 
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Gaugefixing often doesn't completely fix the gauge. You should check if the next gauge transformation they perform leaves the gauge choice invariant.
 
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haushofer said:
Gaugefixing often doesn't completely fix the gauge. You should check if the next gauge transformation they perform leaves the gauge choice invariant.

They do a Poincare transformation which breaks the gauge choice and so then use a gauge transformation to "fix" it such that the gauge choice is invariant.

Is it the case that if one simply chooses a gauge (thus fixes a gauge), then one can still transform to other gauges? Is that what you mean by "Gauge fixing often doesn't completely fix the gauge."?

(here is the paper I've been reading by the way: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1008.1305v2.pdf the discussion I'm referring to starts on page 9).
 
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Ah, ok, i see. They use a compensating gauge transformation!

One has two kinds of gauge transfo's for branes: Poincare in the targetspacetime, and gct's on the worldvolume. This means that if you make a gauge transfo which takes you out of your gauge choice for the embedding coordinate X, you can make a compensating worldsheet transfo to bring you back into the gauge choice. The X is a scalar under these worldvolume gct's! See e.g. green, schwarz, witten chapter 2.3, eqn. 2.3.19.

The same kind of thing is apparent in string theory, where you can compensate some gct's on the worldsheet, which changes the Minkowski-choice of gauge, by a Weyl rescaling on the worldsheet. this is the reason why string theory is a 2-dim. CFT.
 
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So forget what I said before, it is not relevant here.
 
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haushofer said:
One has two kinds of gauge transfo's for branes: Poincare in the targetspacetime, and gct's on the worldvolume. This means that if you make a gauge transfo which takes you out of your gauge choice for the embedding coordinate X, you can make a compensating worldsheet transfo to bring you back into the gauge choice. The X is a scalar under these worldvolume gct's! See e.g. green, schwarz, witten chapter 2.3, eqn. 2.3.19.

So is the idea that one picks a gauge that specifies the embedding in the bulk, and then performs a Poincare transformation on the bulk which breaks this gauge choice, however one can simply re-parameterize the brane which amounts to performing a gauge transformation of the worldvolume coordinates on the brane?
 
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Yes. You have two different kinds of gauge transfo's, which gives you the freedom to still to a particular combination of them without leaving your gauge choice. This is not trivial, of course; you have to check explicitly that this is possible! The different parameter will then be related, like in your paper.

In the gsw section i recommended you one choses the lightcone gauge, but then you have to check the Lorentz algebra again, this time with th compensating transfo's included. The algebra should still close.
 
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haushofer said:
You have two different kinds of gauge transfo's

Are they choice of how you embed the brane in the bulk and choice of how you parametrize the coordinates on the brane?

Also, in general (for gauge theories), once one has fixed a gauge can one then subsequently perform a gauge transformation to another gauge as long as the new gauge satisfies the gauge fixing conditions that one specified in fixing the original gauge?
 
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Yes, and yes. Once you chose a gaugecondition, you're still free to gauge whatever you want as long as those gauge conditions are still satisfied. As i said, choosing a gauge often doesn't completely eliminate all the gauge freedom you have.
 
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Ok, I think I'm starting to understand it a little better now. Thanks for your help.
 

1. What is gauge fixing and why is it important in physics?

Gauge fixing is a mathematical procedure used in physics to remove redundant degrees of freedom in a physical system. In other words, it is a way to simplify the equations that describe a system without changing the physical content of the theory. It is important because it allows us to focus on the essential aspects of a physical system and make calculations more manageable.

2. What are gauge transformations and how do they relate to gauge fixing?

Gauge transformations are mathematical operations that change the gauge of a system without altering its physical content. In other words, they are transformations that leave the equations of motion unchanged. Gauge fixing is a way to choose a specific gauge in which to work, and gauge transformations allow us to move between different gauges while still describing the same physical system.

3. How is gauge fixing used in the Standard Model of particle physics?

In the Standard Model, gauge fixing is used to simplify the equations that describe the interactions between particles and their corresponding fields. This is done by choosing a specific gauge in which to work, such as the Feynman gauge or the Coulomb gauge. These choices allow for easier calculations and interpretation of the physical results.

4. Can gauge fixing lead to physical predictions or is it just a mathematical tool?

Gauge fixing is primarily a mathematical tool used to simplify the equations of a physical system. However, in some cases, it can also lead to physical predictions. For example, in quantum electrodynamics, the gauge fixing procedure leads to the prediction of the existence of photons, which are the particles responsible for the electromagnetic force.

5. Are there any drawbacks to using gauge fixing in physics?

While gauge fixing is a useful tool in simplifying equations and making calculations more manageable, it can also lead to confusion and complications. Choosing a specific gauge can sometimes obscure certain physical phenomena and make it difficult to interpret results. Additionally, gauge fixing can sometimes introduce unphysical solutions, which must be carefully considered and eliminated.

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