Gender Segregation in Engineering Colleges - YouTube

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The discussion revolves around gender segregation in engineering colleges, as highlighted in a YouTube video. Participants explore the implications of such segregation, the fairness of institutional rules, and the broader context of gender norms in education.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants confirm the video's portrayal of gender segregation in engineering colleges as accurate based on personal experiences.
  • Others argue that the video exemplifies panic journalism, suggesting it uses emotional manipulation rather than presenting a balanced view of the situation.
  • There is a discussion about the concept of a double standard, with some asserting that the rules apply equally to both genders, while others feel the term was misused in the video.
  • Participants express concern over the severity of segregation rules, including fines and punishments for interacting with the opposite sex, and question the fairness of these policies.
  • Some argue that students are aware of the rules upon enrollment and have the option to leave if they disagree, while others highlight the competitive admission process and parental pressures that limit choices.
  • There is a call for reconsideration of government accreditation for institutions that enforce such segregation policies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the fairness and implications of gender segregation in engineering colleges, with multiple competing views on the severity of the issue and the appropriateness of the media's portrayal.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the discussion is influenced by cultural contexts where gender norms are more extreme, which complicates the comparison to the situation in the colleges discussed.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVrHW2suW2A&eur

A couple of my former high school classmates currently in those "engineering colleges" confirm that the content of the video is sadly accurate.
 
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Too right as well girls are a distraction and their icky too as well I'm told. :smile:
 
That video is an example of panic journalism. Use emotionally charged words and dramatic music, and they'll have you thinking that a million orphans are being slaughtered. Instead, they're simply reporting on archaic gender separation rules, not even trying to hide their journalistic bias.

"A double standard refers to the treatment of one classification of people differently than other groups of people." They did not report on a double standard. The rules apply to males as much as to females.

I hate to say it, but there are places around the world with a true double standard, where sexism is the norm of the culture. Think it's unfair that males can't talk to females and must use their own staircase, and vice versa? Try living somewhere where woman aren't allowed to go to college period, cannot be seen in public without a male relative as an escort, aren't allowed to drive, can't show any skin or hair, and have truly segregated public buildings, and are murdered for the slightest infraction (or perceived infraction). That's something to be outraged out.
 
Laura1013 said:
That video is an example of panic journalism. Use emotionally charged words and dramatic music, and they'll have you thinking that a million orphans are being slaughtered. Instead, they're simply reporting on archaic gender separation rules, not even trying to hide their journalistic bias.

"A double standard refers to the treatment of one classification of people differently than other groups of people." They did not report on a double standard. The rules apply to males as much as to females.

I agree that the phrase "double standard" was used out of context, and the report indulged in sensationalism, but panic journalism is better than no journalism.

I hate to say it, but there are places around the world with a true double standard, where sexism is the norm of the culture. Think it's unfair that males can't talk to females and must use their own staircase, and vice versa?

I think it is definitely unfair that students are segregated, fined, punished in public and suspended just for talking to members of the opposite sex.

Try living somewhere where woman aren't allowed to go to college period, cannot be seen in public without a male relative as an escort, aren't allowed to drive, can't show any skin or hair, and have truly segregated public buildings, and are murdered for the slightest infraction (or perceived infraction). That's something to be outraged out.

Of course. The insane laws in such places are based on extreme (usually religious) ideologies.

But that wasn't meant to be the topic of this thread. I live in the city where these universities are, and some of my friends study there. I find it sad that the educational institutions are able to get away with such crazy laws.
 
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I think it is definitely unfair that students are segregated, fined, punished in public and suspended just for talking to members of the opposite sex.


Oh, I agree, it's unfair, and personally, I wouldn't stand for it. But to be fair to the institutions, those students knew the rules before the enrolled, and are free to leave if they don't like them (parental pressures aside). I was pointing out that "unfair" is subjective, and there are far worse rules out there.
 
Laura1013 said:
Oh, I agree, it's unfair, and personally, I wouldn't stand for it. But to be fair to the institutions, those students knew the rules before the enrolled, and are free to leave if they don't like them (parental pressures aside).

Unfortunately, the major problem lies there. The admission procedure to all universities in the state is through a common entrance test for all students in the state. Since these universities are located in a major city, there's intense competition for limited seats, and students usually don't have freedom in choosing better universities. Besides, there's also quite a bit of parental pressure.

See here for a deeper discussion of this issue.
http://nanopolitan.blogspot.com/2006/01/rules-discipline-decorum.html

I was pointing out that "unfair" is subjective, and there are far worse rules out there.

Sure, but that doesn't make this "right".

My major objection is that these educational institutions shouldn't get government accreditation in the first place.
 

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