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The discussion revolves around the Friedmann-Robertson-Walker (FRW) metric and the associated equations in the context of general relativity. Participants are exploring the implications of the conservation equation for energy density and pressure, particularly in a scenario where pressure is zero.

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There are multiple interpretations being explored regarding the values of the cosmological constant and curvature parameter. Participants are questioning the assumptions made about these constants and their relationships to the scale factor, leading to a productive exchange of ideas without a clear consensus.

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Some participants note confusion regarding the constraints on the cosmological constant and curvature parameter, particularly in relation to their possible values and dependencies. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the implications of the equations given the lack of specification in the problem statement.

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The Attempt at a Solution


Using the conservation equation for ##p=0##

I find: ##\rho =\frac{ \rho_0}{a^3}##; (I am told this is ##\geq0## , is ##a\geq0## so here I can conclude that ##\rho_0 \geq =0 ## or not?)

Plugging this and ##p=0## into the first Einstein equation I get:

##\dot{a^2}+k-\Lambda a^2=\frac{8\pi G \rho_0}{a}##

So a stationary solution is to solve for ##a## and get no time independence, so don't we need something of the form:

##\frac{da}{dt} a^k =0## or can I find a more general expression to this?

This is ofc not possible to get since ##\Lambda## and ##k## are constants and can not depend on ##a##?

Many thanks
 
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In a time independent solution, a is constant, so Λ and k can depend on a and still be constant.
 
phyzguy said:
In a time independent solution, a is constant, so Λ and k can depend on a and still be constant.

mmm

so ##k=8 \pi G \rho_0 / a ## and ##\Lambda =0 ## ?
 
binbagsss said:
so ##k=8 \pi G \rho_0 / a ## and ##\Lambda =0 ## ?

How did you conclude Λ=0? Remember k = 0, +/-1.
 
phyzguy said:
How did you conclude Λ=0? Remember k = 0, +/-1.

##k=0## and ##\Lambda = \frac{-8\pi G \rho_0}{a}## ?

Basically need to solve for ##8\pi G \rho_0/a +\Lambda a^2 -k = 0## subject to the above values of ##k## only allowed ?
 
binbagsss said:
##k=0## and ##\Lambda = \frac{-8\pi G \rho_0}{a}## ?

Basically need to solve for ##8\pi G \rho_0/a +\Lambda a^2 -k = 0## subject to the above values of ##k## only allowed ?

Aren't there two equations?
 
phyzguy said:
Aren't there two equations?

equating ##a## coefficients, but baring in mind that ##\Lambda## can depend on ##a## and ##k## can not, so ##k## for the 0th order equation?
 
binbagsss said:
I find: ##\rho =\frac{ \rho_0}{a^3}##; (I am told this is ##\geq0## , is ##a\geq0## so here I can conclude that ##\rho_0 \geq =0 ## or not?)

Plugging this and ##p=0## into the first Einstein equation I get:

##\dot{a^2}+k-\Lambda a^2=\frac{8\pi G \rho_0}{a}##
apologies to re-bump but
re-looking at this , ##\rho =\frac{ \rho_0}{a^3} \geq 0 ##
## \rho=\frac{\rho_0}{a} \frac{1}{a^2} \geq 0 ## and so since ##\frac{1}{a^2}>0 ## it must be that ##\rho=\frac{\rho_0}{a} \geq 0 ##

so from the other equation ##0+k-\Lambda a^2 \geq 0## is the required constraint ?
 
binbagsss said:
apologies to re-bump but
re-looking at this , ##\rho =\frac{ \rho_0}{a^3} \geq 0 ##
## \rho=\frac{\rho_0}{a} \frac{1}{a^2} \geq 0 ## and so since ##\frac{1}{a^2}>0 ## it must be that ##\rho=\frac{\rho_0}{a} \geq 0 ##

so from the other equation ##0+k-\Lambda a^2 \geq 0## is the required constraint ?

I'm getting a bit confused since it says ##k=-1,0,1## , but since the question doesn't specify whether ##\Lamda## is ##>0## or ##<0## there is no need to/no way to narrow down this further
 

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