General relativity- weak field limit and proper time

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The discussion focuses on the gravitational time dilation experienced by a satellite in a circular polar orbit around Earth, specifically comparing the proper time of a clock on the satellite (C) to a clock at the South Pole (C0). The derived ratio of the rates is approximately 1 + (GM/Rc²) - (3GM/2rc²). Key equations utilized include dτ = (1 + 2φ/c²)^(0.5) for proper time and the gravitational potentials for both clocks. The conversation highlights the need to correctly apply the principles of general relativity in a weak field limit scenario.

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Homework Statement



A satellite is in circular polar orbit radius r around Earth (radius R, mass M). Clocks C on satellite and C0 on south pole of earth. Show the ratio of the rate of C to C0 is approximately

[tex]1 +\dfrac{GM}{Rc^2} - \dfrac{3GM}{2rc^2}[/tex]

Homework Equations



[tex]d\tau = (1+\dfrac{2\phi}{c^2})^{0.5} dt[/tex] where tau is proper time, and t is coordinate time of a stationary observer near a massive object, and phi is the scalar gravitational potential at that point.

The Attempt at a Solution



want to compare rates of measurement of proper time?

can easily work out both gravitational potentials, and hence get

[tex]d\tau_{C_0} = (1- \dfrac{2GM}{Rc^2})^{0.5} dt[/tex]
and
[tex]d\tau_{C} = (1-\dfrac{2GM}{rc^2})^{0.5}[/tex]

then I worked out [itex]\dfrac{d\tau_{C}}{d\tau_{C_0}}[/itex], using binomial expansion on both and got:[tex]1 +\dfrac{GM}{Rc^2} - \dfrac{GM}{rc^2}[/tex]... not quite right.
HOW DO YOU USE LATEX ON HERE? haha...
 
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hai2410 said:
[tex]d\tau_{C} = (1-\dfrac{2GM}{rc^2})^{0.5} dt[/tex]

This is correct for a clock that is hovering, not for a clock that is orbiting. What is Newronian orbital speed? How can you use this?
 

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