Geometric optics: Thin lense equation

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SUMMARY

The discussion centers on solving a geometric optics problem involving a thin lens with a focal length of 32 cm, used to project a 2.0-cm-tall candle flame located 2.0 m from a wall. The relevant lens formula, 1/f = 1/s' + 1/s, is applied incorrectly by one participant, leading to confusion regarding the image distances and heights. The correct solutions provided are s' = 160 cm with h' = 0.50 cm, and s' = 40 cm with h' = 8.0 cm. Participants emphasize the importance of dimensional analysis in verifying the correctness of derived equations.

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Homework Statement


A 2.0-cm-tall candle flame is 2.0 m from a wall. You happen to have a lens with a focal length of 32 cm. How many places can you put the lens to form a well-focused image of the candle flame on the wall? For each location, what are the height and orientation of the image?

Homework Equations


## \frac {1} {f} = \frac {1} {s'} + \frac {1} {s} ## Where s' is image distance, s is object distance, and f is focal length of the lens. The lens is converging because its focal length is positive.

The Attempt at a Solution


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I just have a hard time approach in the question. I came up with a quadratic formula but still got wrong answer. Apologize for not writing this in Latex I am in quite a rush.

s'+s=2
s's=2/f=2/0.32=6.25

The answer key provided is s′=160 cm, h′=0.50 cm; s′=40 cm, h′=8.0 cm

Thank you so much!
 
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Beth N said:
s's=2/f
This equation is incorrect. Check your derivation of it. (Note that the left side of your equation has units of m2 while the right side is dimensionless since you have 2m divided by the focal length in meters.)
 
TSny said:
This equation is incorrect. Check your derivation of it. (Note that the left side of your equation has units of m2 while the right side is dimensionless since you have 2m divided by the focal length in meters.)

Is this the correct approach though? I'm not sure what other equation to use
 
Yes, your approach is correct. Can you write out the steps that led you to s's=2/f? Then we can identify the specific mistake that you must have made.
 

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