Geometric Sequence: T1=0.1024, T2=0.256, Middle Term=156.25

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The discussion revolves around a finite geometric sequence with given terms T1 = 0.1024 and T2 = 0.256, and a middle term value of 156.25. Participants are exploring the implications of these values on the total number of terms in the sequence.

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  • The original poster attempts to determine the number of terms in the sequence based on the middle term and the common ratio. Some participants question the validity of the original poster's conclusion regarding the total number of terms, specifically the definition of a middle term in sequences with an even number of terms.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the concept of middle terms in sequences, with some suggesting that the original poster's interpretation may be incorrect. There is a focus on understanding whether a sequence can have a middle term when it contains an even number of terms, leading to a discussion about the correct formula for determining the number of terms.

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There is an ongoing debate about the definitions and implications of terms in sequences, particularly regarding odd and even counts of terms. The original poster's calculations and reasoning are being scrutinized, with references to common mathematical conventions.

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A finite geometric sequence has t1 = 0.1024 and t2 = 0.256. How many terms does this sequence have if its middle term has a value of 156.25?

My Solution

Common Ratio: T2/T1=(.256)/(.1024)=2.5
What term # is the middle term?
tn=ar^n-1
a=0.1024
r=2.5
tn=156.25

(156.25)=(0.1024)(2.5)^n-1

1525=(2.5)^n-1

[Log(1525)/Log(2.5)]+1=n
n=8+1=9

n is the middle term so final term should be 2n. 18 terms in the sequence

From the way I have seen other people do this question, they get the answer "17 terms". Why am I 1 term off? Can you help me with what I am doing wrong. Or am I doing it correctly :)

Thanks!
 
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ThomasMagnus said:
n is the middle term so final term should be 2n. 18 terms in the sequence
Not so! Can a sequence with an even number of terms have a middle term?

For example, if I have a simple sequence of natural numbers where 3 is the 3rd and middle term:
1 2 3 ...
You're saying that there are 2n, or 6 terms in the sequence:
1 2 3 4 5 6
See the problem? If 3 is the middle term, then there are 2n - 1, or 5 terms in the sequence:
1 2 3 4 5

So there should be 17 terms in the sequence in your problem.
 
eumyang said:
Not so! Can a sequence with an even number of terms have a middle term?

For example, if I have a simple sequence of natural numbers where 3 is the 3rd and middle term:
1 2 3 ...
You're saying that there are 2n, or 6 terms in the sequence:
1 2 3 4 5 6
See the problem? If 3 is the middle term, then there are 2n - 1, or 5 terms in the sequence:
1 2 3 4 5

So there should be 17 terms in the sequence in your problem.
I'm struggling to understand what you are saying.

"You're saying that there are 2n, or 6 terms in the sequence:
1 2 3 4 5 6"

Isn't there six terms in this sequence?Thanks :)
 
ThomasMagnus said:
I'm struggling to understand what you are saying.

"You're saying that there are 2n, or 6 terms in the sequence:
1 2 3 4 5 6"

Isn't there six terms in this sequence?
Yes, but I consider this sequence to have no "middle term", because there are an even number of terms. If you have a 5 term sequence (2n - 1):
1 2 3 4 5
... then 3 would be the middle term.
 
So the middle term is always defined as 2n-1?
 
Yes, if there are n terms in a sequence and n is odd.
 
ThomasMagnus said:
So the middle term is always defined as 2n-1?

eumyang said:
Yes, if there are n terms in a sequence and n is odd.
No, if there are n terms, for n larger than 1, then 2n- 1 is larger than n! If n is odd, then the middle term is indexed by (n+ 1)/2.
 
HallsofIvy said:
No, if there are n terms, for n larger than 1, then 2n- 1 is larger than n! If n is odd, then the middle term is indexed by (n+ 1)/2.

Wow. I need to wake up. I think I meant to say: if the middle term of a sequence is the nth term, then there are 2n - 1 terms in the sequence. :blushing:
 

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